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Hoppers!
Post 16 Aug 2020, 11:24 • #1 
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Tomsu Pattern:



Moorish:



Cutthroat that liked one of them:


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Post 17 Aug 2020, 17:01 • #2 
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The attention to detail on your hoppers is amazing! They look real enough to fool a real hopper :)


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Post 17 Aug 2020, 17:48 • #3 
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great looking flies. thanks for sharing. Sometimes i think cutts just eat foam -- resemblance to hoppers or other living creatures notwithstanding!? Sort of a "it floats, and it's pretty big, i'm gonna eat it" mentality. It's part of what makes them so endearing to us.


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Post 17 Aug 2020, 18:37 • #4 
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Very nice. I catch a lot of bass and sunfish on hopper patterns this time of year while fishing Texas Hill Country waters. Those look like they would work. Thanks for sharing.


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Post 19 Aug 2020, 10:52 • #5 
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Yes very nice bugs.My only issue is to me a fly must have some natural materials in it's construction.I worked on the perfect hopper/cricket on and off for years.Could barely fool a bluegill with any.My go to fly this time of year is hippy stompers in various sizes.It looks like nothing in particular but resembles lots of things.I call late August thru the first frost bug season,hoppers crickets katydids dragons damsels cicadas moths beetles wasps hornets are buzzing flying singing everywhere .Spiders have webs set up everywhere to capture any careless bug .Many end up in the water ,as the nights get cool the bugs are lethargic until the sun hits them .Many dont fly well until they warm up.The fish know and so do I.


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Post 19 Aug 2020, 11:51 • #6 
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Your admission about an attachment to natural materials prompts me to confess to my reservations about the 'clown colors' in many all synthetic patterns.

Having fish reject a fly is normal, hearing them laugh is not.

Heddonist


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Post 19 Aug 2020, 13:38 • #7 
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Great Hoppers! I love the garish colors. In heavily fished waters giving them something newer or different to look at often is the trick to getting bit or a refusal.

I have mixed emotions on natural vs. synthetic materials. My general rule of thumb is that if it's more durable then I'm going with it. However, there is no substitute for rooster hackle on a Hippie Stomper. All of my Humpy patterns are tied with a foam body and Antron wing. I've all but retired pheasant tail fibers for tailing material.

I just want my flies to have a 20 fish, one tree guarantee!


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Post 19 Aug 2020, 14:48 • #8 
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Hippy stompers are just cool ,they fish well in still and moving water.You can tie in any gawdy or natural colors you wish.They animate well as in that struggling, just crash landed bug,type of presentation or just twitch the legs flowing downstream.I have yet to fish one on a sinking line like a predator.I came across a small antique paper slicer that cuts foam strips nicely which makes life easy.I usually use 8 legs instead of 4 and like to over hackle.The ones i tie look much better than my ability as a tyer and they catch fish.


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Post 19 Aug 2020, 16:57 • #9 
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Ok - I put some deer hair on it and tried to pick non-clown colors. Better?



I do love cuts for their willingness to play!


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Post 20 Aug 2020, 10:10 • #10 
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Great looking hoppers. I don't know that natural materials are always required. What about bluegill spiders ? Chenille and rubber legs.


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Post 20 Aug 2020, 17:48 • #11 
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natural materials are never necessary i just feel obliged to those who invented this game we play.For stompers i use squirrel tail for the small ones and moose for the bigger ones.I have caught 1000s of sunfish on the simple foam spider.About as simple a fly as there is but boring to tie.I feel that a few wraps of hackle make them hold the fly a little longer.I was able to fish a private club one fall that has a beautiful spring fed lake that was recently stocked with trout.We were fishing in a cove and what i assumed were big bluegills were feeding on top.Caught 5 trout on 6 casts on black foam spider.Nobody fly fishes at this place,they all thought i was some kind of wizard.No one was as surprised as me.


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Post 22 Aug 2020, 15:36 • #12 
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:=))


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Post 31 Jul 2022, 09:53 • #13 
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Decided I should try to use more natural materials after so much foam.


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Post 31 Jul 2022, 10:46 • #14 
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I like all of your hoppers, foam or natural. Very nice.


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Post 31 Jul 2022, 11:05 • #15 
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Nice to see you are still at.It is definitely bug season here The fish go on a terrestrial binge from now til the frost. Most of my favorite ponds are slimmed up out to 30 feet or so tho which makes fishing tough Between the geese and the crap they spray the lawns with it really feeds the algae.


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Post 31 Jul 2022, 15:00 • #16 
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i really like the foam ones but i like these better. i fear that the cutts may disagree with me?


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Post 02 Aug 2022, 05:26 • #17 
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Outstanding!


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Post 02 Aug 2022, 14:51 • #18 
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All the hoppers are excellent. I’ve seen a lot of grasshoppers with some pretty extravagant, clown colors hopping around the prairie and high meadows.

Stunning cutthroat too!


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Post 02 Aug 2022, 20:13 • #19 
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I love the Madam-X or whatever that bullethead hopper is called.

But in my new locale, the garish colors and foam are a lot more practical. Under bright sun, the silhouette is the most important part, and most of the hoppers are pretty colorful on the bottom.

I always wonder about those cuttout legs. do they ever get in the way of the hookset? They look realistic from an art point of view, but from a fishing perspective, they seem unnatural to me.


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Post 07 Aug 2022, 10:18 • #20 
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Those natural ones are awesome! Honestly, I really like throwing foam just because I can hang a decent amount of weight underneath, but if I'm strictly after dry fly fish, something like those naturals will flat out get it done....especially once they get a little waterlogged and are presented just under the water surface.


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Post 07 Aug 2022, 12:14 • #21 
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The bullet heads really float well and make a great profile ,you can rub some clear silcone into them and the heads will last longer.I think i have finally come up with a decent cricket pattern for warm water that has the right kicking/struggling action.Live crickets are an awsome bait in still water and creeks but i have tried all the best looking patterns and the fish are not impressed.The foam legs are fine but you want really thin foam.I like the knotted legs my self for a classic look.I use silicone skirts tho for most legs.I can find them 3 for a buck in every color imaginable.


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Post 07 Aug 2022, 13:47 • #22 
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I like the idea of foam hoppers for their durability and float-ability (and ease of tying), but to be honest, I haven’t had much success fishing them. I do much better with a natural hopper pattern like a Schroeder’s or Dave’s hopper.

On a summer evening in the Sierras around sunset, the fish were literally fighting over natural hoppers, but wouldn’t touch a foam hopper. I wish they would take my foam offerings as the natural hoppers only last 2-3 fish, and they take me forever to tie.


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