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Post 05 Apr 2022, 19:52 • #1 
Sport
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Just purchased a very nice Phillipson RWF60C and I was wondering what reel you would recommend to pair with it?

This rod is me getting my feet wet when it comes to vintage fiberglass. So any help on naming some reels would be appreciated. I’ve read on here most recommend using a 5wt line so any lines that you’ve found that pair really with that rod would be great too! Thanks for all the help and info


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Post 05 Apr 2022, 20:20 • #2 
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A Medalist 1394 or 1494. The 1394 is just a slight bit lighter than the 1494’s


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Post 05 Apr 2022, 22:03 • #3 
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That's a light rod, I'd put a light Hardy or Martin LM on it.
These are RWF66 and FF66
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Post 06 Apr 2022, 07:22 • #4 
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Those are both great looking set ups. I did search for Royal Wands and saw some previous posts of yours with the Hardy reel. I like the look of it and I trust that you would know how good the balance is. I'm going to have to start searching for one now. Thanks!


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Post 06 Apr 2022, 08:24 • #5 
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you're welcome - enjoy the rod


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Post 06 Apr 2022, 11:46 • #6 
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While the orvis battenkill click pawl reels certainly arent vintage or classic, they do look fine on old glass to me. I have one spooled with most of a peach dt5 tha I use on an FF605 and an FF60. Thats a BK1. it wont hold the entire line but it balances well. Another inexpensive option would be a martin tuna can. I think Id want a 62, they are slimmer.

These arent the most high class suggestions, but its what I would probably do.


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Post 06 Apr 2022, 13:04 • #7 
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A 7' Royal Wand with 3 Medalists
1) 1394 2nd model put to LHW


2) 1394 1st model from 1929 RHW


3) 1494 click/pawl RHW (in between lines at the moment)


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Post 06 Apr 2022, 20:08 • #8 
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How about a 1492 ?


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Post 07 Apr 2022, 12:12 • #9 
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Might be nice on the OP's 6 footer - mine is 7' and needs more size.
This works well also :)



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Post 09 Apr 2022, 09:40 • #10 
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I’d recommend the later version scientific anglers system-1 (4,5,6)
it balances very nicely on the light weight
6ft Phillipsons
The system1 reel foot fits very nicely on the Phillipson slip ring also .


More importantly!!
I’d also recommend you to score some Jim Teeny “first cast” wf6 fly line.

I’m sure Professor Bulldog will concur ..
He’s who I listened to when I was getting a Philly 6footer together.

To get the absolute best performance from these little rods please avoid the common mistake of underling this rod.
It’s not a 4wt !!
It loves a line with a short head taper that’s 5.5/6wt
If you don’t match the line on these lil phillys they won’t unleash the magic!
You’ll just flail it ,get bored or confused and not get into tune .
Fishing it as a 4wt makes you cast it harder which then “crashes” the fly on the water more so than if you just let the 6wt line load the rod smooth and proper and just kiss that fly on the water.
I’ve seen more people sell these lil rods because they try and fish it like a 3/4 wt and get the wrong impression on these rods .

Those who unlock the magic know what’s up and would never part with one of these rods !

Watch out though
using these killer lil rods could turn you into a “Phillipson Fiend”
Good luck with unlocking that magic!


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Post 09 Apr 2022, 16:32 • #11 
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I fish an eagle claw hardy clone on a 7' Phillipson flyfox.I fish a wff bass taper 6wt line on it as i like it to load close in the brushy shorelines i fish this rod the most.I just liked the way it looked on this rod and the sweet purr of the reel. And i never cared much about balance on rods much.I have worked in construction my whole life and i never notice the weight of my setup .I do get a little arm soreness with my big bass bug setups but the Phillipson is smooth casting and light.Just a dream to fish with.


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Post 10 Apr 2022, 07:21 • #12 
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A 1494 works on my RF66, but I've never been real fussy about such matches, as long as the reel is sized to the line. Not sure how much different six inches makes either.


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Post 10 Apr 2022, 08:27 • #13 
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Good morning angry-viking:
So first of all, I’d like to thank you for your question “Which reel…”.
Second, a confession. When I read your question, the first thought that came to my mind was something like “What a newbie! Which reel? Singular? This guy still thinks there is a single best reel for every rod!”
Third, an observation. I very much used to believe there probably was a best reel, a best rod. That scientifically - through physics, hydrodynamics, metallurgy, etc - and a lot of time, a smart guy/gal could “discover” that singular answer. And I suppose deep down I remain open to that possibility. But like a lot of us, over time, I have come to appreciate that philosophy - as much as science - has an awful lot to do with my equipment selection and the enjoyment I experience through it. In fact, the experience of trying different reels and lines on a rod over time brings me enjoyment, even when, mid-stream, it becomes clear to me that the particular combination in my hand is not one of the “better” ones I have experimented with.
So would I have posed your question differently - “Which reels…”? Yeah I guess. But I am nonetheless very grateful for your asking it and for our opportunity to explore it together in our special community here, for all our own reasons. It is a great question.


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Post 10 Apr 2022, 11:38 • #14 
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A 1492 1/2 looks and works good on my 6' and 6.5' phillipsons.


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Post 10 Apr 2022, 14:44 • #15 
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So many reels...so little time

Just fished a friend's 7 wt Eddie Bauer custom Sage RPL rod the other day on a local lake. May get it from him in some kind of swap, but the reel seat only accepts machined reel feet, so may have to pass, for now.

I would think almost any click drag reel of the same vintage would work on that rod..I found a couple of 90's vintage Cortland Crown II click-drag reels and spools an like them a lot. Sold one to a friend, still have one I fish all the time on 5,6 wt rods


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Post 10 Apr 2022, 19:02 • #16 
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An appropriate Orvis CFO of the era could be a good fit.
A perfect excuse to try one.


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Post 19 Apr 2022, 14:58 • #17 
Sport
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A lot of really good replies! The rod arrives tomorrow and the hunt for a reel begins. A lot of great suggestions. I fish a lot of small mountain streams and plan on using this rod as my main tool. Researching reels and lines has been a new adventure, often taking me down the rabbit hole. Keep the responses coming, I really appreciate them and all the knowledge that’s included.

Edit**have a chance to get a Bronson Royalist 370. Would it be too heavy for the rod (RWF60)? Not a big perfect balance guy but want to be somewhat comfortable fishing it. Thanks!**


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Post 19 Apr 2022, 18:22 • #18 
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The Royalist 370 weighs 4.1 oz empty. The 370 takes a lot of backing. That much dacron will push the weight up quickly. Search the forum and you will find moreo about the Bronson Royalist, including how to change from right-hand-wind to left-hand-wind.

Watch out for a worn out drag pawl. Bronson used a soft metal on this part. The pawl in the photo below isn't too bad. Sometimes that little nub of a pawl is completely worn away.


Tom



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Post 19 Apr 2022, 18:38 • #19 
Sport
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Thanks for the info jgestar! It’s a pretty nice looking reel and I assumed it was on the larger size. Might not be a good fit for that rod. The search continues…lol


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Post 20 Apr 2022, 07:31 • #20 
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run away


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Post 20 Apr 2022, 08:11 • #21 
Sport
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I'm in too deep already bulldog. My evenings are spent cruising online looking for reels and glassrod deals. My wife is not thrilled with my new hobby. lol


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Post 20 Apr 2022, 12:03 • #22 
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CFO


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Post 20 Apr 2022, 19:33 • #23 
Sport
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here's another data point...7' Phillipson Royal Wand RWF70C & Heddon 310 with backing and 6 wt wf line...static balance at the hook keeper



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Post 30 Apr 2022, 19:21 • #24 
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Location: SW Idaho
colishin wrote:
CFO

My sentiments exactly! Love those CFOs.


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Post 20 Jun 2022, 09:25 • #25 
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What about the Pflueger Gem?


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