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Post 24 Jun 2021, 16:40 • #1 
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In a recent post it was stated that all Medalist rachet plates made between a particular time window from different models and size reels can be swapped. Is that also true for Martin rachet gears from their disc drag reels?


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Post 25 Jun 2021, 05:54 • #2 
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Martin doesn't use a ratchet clutch, but a friction washer clutch very similar to Lamson LP.
It's the same reversible clutch plate for all Martin drag reels.

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That date range for Medalist was all patent drag Medalists.
I hate being misquoted out of context.


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Post 29 Jun 2021, 17:04 • #3 
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Bulldog, Sorry didn’t mean to misquote you. The part I was referring to is pictured below with four prongs . In two Martin reel papers I have, I found 4 names for the part
SD series: ratchet gear; see #5 below and last line on page
SD series: ratchet plate; see (5) in diagram above and paragraph below …..Disc Drag Lubrication…,

SD series: back plate; see Spool Changing paragraph end of last sentence

71 and 71SS: drag plate; see #6 Quick Changing Spool paragraph and diagram in last frame.



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Post 29 Jun 2021, 20:31 • #4 
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The "ratchet plate" you reference with your photo is just the noisemaker, as opposed to the disc drag plate. Both of them were consistent diameters throughout U.S.A. production. Once they moved production to China, who cares. ;)


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Post 30 Jun 2021, 11:07 • #5 
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the teeth chatterer is not a ratchet, but simply a free-spinning plate on the spindle that receives the friction from the wedding cake drag stack, and keys the clutch and spool.

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This thread remains the best to describe drag brake and clutch types.

Though Pflueger and later Valentine both operated this way, no one has ever exceeded Martin's imagination for making the greatest number of reel models using the relative fewest number of common manufactured parts.


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