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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 08 Dec 2020, 16:34 • #26 
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Pflueger 1494 or the newer 5/6 or a Hardy Princess.


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 08 Dec 2020, 18:56 • #27 
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Best #6 reel I’ve ever seen was the Solitude SR2...6.2 oz and holds a six plus about 130 yds of backing.... smooth as butter and built like a tank on steroids.


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 08 Dec 2020, 19:19 • #28 
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The old Scientific Anglers System One 456 or interchangeable Daiwa SF 706 work just fine for me on my freshwater 6wt's. Or the SA System One 789 or interchangeable Daiwa SF 708 if you need a little heavier reel or more backing capacity for some reason. I have several of each and a metric buttload of spare spools for all my 5wt to 8wt freshwater needs. They work great, are fairly inexpensive, and last a long time. Pretty good retro dual pawl reels in my opinion.

Plus, they click loud enough when stripping line or when a fish is running to keep any other fishermen that might be around at a respectable distance....hah!

The System One 456 is shown in Tup's post #8 of this thread.


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 08 Dec 2020, 19:35 • #29 
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Colston Newton wrote:
Whatever will hold a 6 wt with adequate backing. I don't get hung up on reels.

Works for me too...I tend to pack a reel with extra spools for 2-3 different line weights...for a DT6F on a glass rod I usually pick the Daniellson Traditional Dry Fly model.


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 08 Dec 2020, 22:23 • #30 
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I find the Ross CLA 3 to be a nice 6wt reel. Not a classic look or clicker, but the drag is simple and smooth and the size (3.5") and weight (5.5 oz unloaded) are about right.


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 09 Dec 2020, 15:09 • #31 
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I would echo many of the reels already mentioned including the Martin MG-7 and 67, Pflueger 1494 1/2, Scientific Anglers 456 or Daiwa 706, and the 3 1/2 Young Pridex or Beaudex. The reels I haven't seen mentioned yet are the Japanese made Hardy clones like the Heddon 310, Garcia GK42, Zebco Z56 and Eagle Claw EC-11. If you don't mind RHW, the Pflueger Gem is a good reel for a 6wt. Either the 2094 or the larger 2095 if you need a little more room and/or weight.




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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 09 Dec 2020, 17:59 • #32 
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My go to 6wt reel for freshwater is an older Hardy Marquis 7. I also have an older Orvis Battenkill disc 5/6 reel and extra spool lined up with a 6wt bass taper line and a sinktip line for bass bugs and streamers. Bought that reel with my 1st fly rod in the early 90s. Built like a tank (BFR in the UK). For the salt I have a Kraken 3 lined with 6wt cold water intermediate line for schoolie striped bass and fishing the salt flats of Cape Cod Bay. I love 6 wt rods. A very versatile line weight.


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 09 Dec 2020, 19:46 • #33 
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Hard to argue with my Sage 506 as I think it's one of the nicest reels ever made but the one reel I find myself reaching for most often when fishing a six weight is this 3 1/2 Young contracted spool. It's got a healthy amount of wobble but still runs as smooth as I could want.


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 11 Dec 2020, 01:41 • #34 
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Nice! That's a heck of a "user" reel.


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 12 Dec 2020, 16:56 • #35 
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6 wt reel is the one that balances the to your preference. I have never had a fish spool me so reel diameter never comes into picture. Saltwater I would probably have more backing.

I have Martin LM (yes helical spring is nice), hardy lightweight, and a multiplier reel.

That is my stable.


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 12 Dec 2020, 20:14 • #36 
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While I like vintage rods better than modern rods, I tend to like modern reels over vintage ones. My favorites are Tetons (because their full cage makes them indestructible) and Orvis Battenkill Barstock reels because they are so smooth. I also got an Orvis Access from a board member that I use all the time on my 4 wt Lamiglas rod.

One thing to consider is whether you are going to fish a DT or a WF line. If you plan to fish a DT line, be sure that the reel you use has enough room for the larger bulk of a DT fly line. With a WF line, you can use a smaller reel because the running line is thinner.

If you are looking for a vintage reel, the classic is a Pflueger 1494, the Martin MG-3 is nice but might not hold a DT-6 Line. Be sure to check if the reel you pick can be changed from right-hand wind to left-hand wind, if you wind with your left hand. The Martin MG-7 is another vintage reel I like but, as I said, I enjoy the feel, smoothness, and subtle click of the modern reels better.


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 13 Dec 2020, 08:18 • #37 
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I absolutely love the Marquis 7 (or the same reel badged as Scientific Anglers System 7) for my freshwater 6 weight fishing. For salt I have an Orvis Odyssey II that balances my Epic 686 well and is smooth as can be.


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 13 Dec 2020, 21:38 • #38 
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Pflueger Progress 1774


Martin 65 on left. Orvis Green Mountain 1 on right.


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 15 Dec 2020, 20:05 • #39 
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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 23 Dec 2020, 15:26 • #40 
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Couple thoughts: the Pflueger Medalist 1495 is NOT a 6w reel. I got a kick out of a couple of the guys who responded to this thread that they don’t pay much attention to reels (in a post about reels, on the classic reels segment of the forum), only to mention that they commonly use $300+ reels.
But to answer the question, my top two 6w reels for old school glass are the Pflueger Medalist 1494, and the Bronson Royalist 370, depending on the balance.


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 23 Dec 2020, 18:42 • #41 
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Gosh, don't tell that to the guys who have a 1495 loaded with a DT6 because they want the backing capacity and the spool diameter so a fish doesn't decrease the spool diameter quite so rapidly when taking line. And so they can wind it back a little quicker. In the time these reels were most popular, the 1492, 1494, and 1495 were the most commonly stocked and available, and people often, as with fly rods, owned only one or two. In that time, the line was most likely to be a 6 weight or above (or their letter-coded equivalents before the mid 60s). So if a guy was going to use a 6 and have an 8 on a spare spool when using his reel with his other rod, the 1495 might be the more versatile of the two sizes to select. The 1494 gets pretty minimal for backing with a DT line, the 1494 1/2 is the smallest I'd use where a big fish can go as far as it wants, and the 1495 covers it for about anything. Personally, with a 6, I prefer the 1494 1/2, but only if the reel is devoted to one line size. With rod(s) where I might use a Pflueger and a 6 or more, a 1495 would be the one. Somebody who has read George Harvey way more recently than I have may know, but I think the 1494 1/2 was his favored/ ideal real size for a 6.


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 23 Dec 2020, 19:40 • #42 
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The 1495 is also nice if trying to balance longer and/or heavier rods. I especially liked it on some longer bamboo.

Barry


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 24 Dec 2020, 22:21 • #43 
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Probably worthwhile to consider that sometimes bigger reels just work better for some rods. I have an LLBean Guide 7/8 reel set up with a 5wt line because it balances my ********* 895-4 really well. I have a couple Marquis 7 reels set up with 5wt and 6wt lines. It’s all about balance. I also think that lines for a given weight used to be a little smaller diameter than they are now, so sometimes it will take a bigger vintage reel to fit a modern line....


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 24 Dec 2020, 23:10 • #44 
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I used the 1498 for every sized line for over twenty years. I owned it and a 1494; the 1494 didn't hold any backing with most lines I used early on and I got so used to the feel of the big reel that it "fit" every rod. iirc, I had about six spare spools for each and looking back I can't say why so many, exactly, but a few were used with sinking lines that I haven't used since the mid '80s and one was nymph rigged with Humphreys' Cobra Mono.
Point is, a bigger reel will hold any smaller line size and a smaller reel won't hold larger lines. The 1494 is best used for WF lines and "short" lines or ultra light lines, the 1554 seems to hold just as much line although I haven't measured one to the other.
So, with no backing; if the #6 line is short or WF or small diameter sinker or shooting head, is there any reel that would be too small?


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 25 Dec 2020, 11:52 • #45 
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Outside of my more modern reels (I REALLY like my Sage Click, but it's a touch light even for my Steffen....luckily, it doesn't matter), I usually roll with an SA System 2 (the 6/7 & 7/8 work great for my 6 & 7wts. I also have a Ross Cimarron that gets some play. I dropped it a while back and bent the spool, but it still works great.


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 25 Dec 2020, 21:45 • #46 
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I have a fair amount of backing on my 1494’s with DT6 line. Not sure where the confusion lies there.....


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 26 Dec 2020, 00:33 • #47 
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Diameter, weight, and backing capacity. The 1495 has more of each. A fair amount is fine if a fish will rarely get into the backing. If you don't like to wind line on a greatly reduced diameter spool with the arbor showing through the last wraps of backing when a fish bolted downriver, the 1494 is too small. The 1494 1/2 holds more and keeps the diameter up because it is wider, so it declines less rapidly as the fly line comes off. The 1495 gives the greatest diameter and the easier spooling of a narrower spool (relative to the 1494 1/2). No surprise it is closer to another great configuration, the 3 1/2" narrow spool JW Young reels.

Here's a visual on the 1494 series, noting that the bulk of floating lines varies according to their length and buoyancy. Top right, a 1494 with 18 lb. Dacron green spot, loaded with a DT5F SA Air Cel--a fairly compact line, only 82 ft. Below, the same reel is shown with the line removed. On any reel, that is about as small a diameter as I want the backing to start at. Let a fish run it out 75 yards and you find out why pretty quickly. Below are others showing the fit of a WF 6 on a 1494 and a DT6 on a 1494 `1/2, both bulkier SA Supreme lines. The level of backing is visible through the spool ports, and the empty spools show them relative to the spool arbor. A DT6 will fit the 1494 but take up more space than the WF6, and corrrespondingly more shallow fill of backing. Backing charts tell the approximate length, but apart from the length of the backing, keeping the spool up in diameter is the other purpose of using it. The 1495 just makes this easier and/or enables use of larger diameter backing, which spools more easily and with less stretch when winding back on a fish that has run out a lot of backing. No confusion is involved. It is the way this versatile range of sizes was used over the decades they were on the market.

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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 26 Dec 2020, 00:41 • #48 
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The chart the late Bill F published at OnePfoot says 1494 will fit DT6 with 25 yards - seems generous to me, since he gives 50 yards to a DT4 on the reel.


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 05 Jan 2021, 14:00 • #49 
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I use and like the following with 6wts Medalist 1495 as it has a little more weight for my 8'6" rods, the JW Young Pridex and the Scientific Angler System 2. That covers my 6wt fishing gear.

Good luck with your search...good news is you can get one and if its not what you like, sell it again and try something else...reels are easy to buy easy to sell and you can get a "reel" feel/test and then generally get your $$ to try something else till you find the one...or 14 that work best for you


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Re: 6 Weight Fly Reels
Post 05 Jan 2021, 17:30 • #50 
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A couple of 1495s doing 6wt duty. The one on the right has a wf taper and you can glimpse a bit of backing in the first row of ventilation. The one on the left doing it’s impression of a 1595 is holding a DT 6 and the backing is all hidden.
I haven’t had the One Pfoot reel out on the water yet, but I bought it specifically to hold the 6 weight.


Speaking of Medalist style reels, I also have a Sportfisher 44, which is a 1495 sized KMart clone of a Medalist that performs well with a wf6w line, though the foot of it needs rust polished off of it periodically with saltwater use as it's chromed steel. But they can be found for very little money and will perform well, especially for freshwater.
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For heavier and longer rods I have a brass 1555 Sal Trout lined up with a 6 weight. It's 11 ounces loaded, and 9 empty, and while a caliper clicker I've landed decent carp with it.
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You mentioned that you bid on an Ocean City 77. I have one of those that I use with a 7 weight line. I know there have been a couple of different sets of internals that have all been called a '77'. Mine is a caliper drag with a felt washer drag. I like the fact that I can silence it and still have resistance, which is nice for quiet mornings on a lake, but the caliper click is a bit rough, and the washer drag, at least in LHW as I use it, often backs off to the point I lash the line when stripping out to make a longer cast. If I were buying a reel with what I know now I'd pick a different one.
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There's a wealth of information in this thread. Lots of good answers.


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