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Post 26 Sep 2011, 08:00 • #1 
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Here are a few pics of my CRI family. I know some of you are familiar with these reels, and I'm not the first to post pics of them. But I think this is the first complete set shown on the forum. I also own one of the rods, but since it's a graphite rod, let's just enjoy it as a member of the family. I also used a UFM UEDA Super Pulser on some of the pics, a rod which was manufactured during the same time as the CRI, but with less expensive appointments and materials. Unfortunately the CRI family did not include any fiberglass rods.

To compensate the lack of fiberglass, I paired the smallest reel (2100 in silver) up with a Fenwick/Tiemco Continental Tourer. I must say this is a fantastic combo, and it's all japanese - despite the american labels.

I love Japan!
/Chris

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Post 26 Sep 2011, 10:00 • #2 
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Very good pictures. Enjoyed seeing them.


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Post 26 Sep 2011, 10:01 • #3 
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Chris,
Beautiful "family" portrait. Would you happen to have a shot of the internals?

Doug


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Post 26 Sep 2011, 12:00 • #4 
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Christian ... quite a set and stellar photos as well.


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Post 26 Sep 2011, 13:55 • #5 
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Somehow dropped my text when I posted this. But I can only show the 2100, which has a fixed click-pawl.
Great little reels. So much like the CFO that Orvis sued them out of the market.
An excellent collection and very cool photos.


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Post 26 Sep 2011, 17:24 • #6 
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Great photos, Christian. I especially like the looks of that CRI rod with the superfine grip. Your Continental tourer with that CRI reel looks like a sweet combo. Thanks for sharing those.


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Post 26 Sep 2011, 22:47 • #7 
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Black-and-copper is an elegant colour combination.


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Post 26 Sep 2011, 23:02 • #8 
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I have heard about Orvis vs Cortland. But if Orvis sued Cortland, how come UFM still manufacture the reel in Japan under the name Cantata? I have the latest catalogue, and it looks exactly the same. The biggest difference is that UFM make the reel in even more different sizes than the Cortland edition.

It sure is a nice reel. I love the sound of it, silent and smooth.

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Post 26 Sep 2011, 23:56 • #9 
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there is nothing Orvis can do about the manufacture of the reel, but Cortland doesn't sell it here, nor have they for a long, long time.
The gist of the lawsuit was that the appearance of the CFO reel was a copyright trademark and selling a reel that looked that much like the CFO was infringement.


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Post 27 Sep 2011, 02:25 • #10 
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Oh no! What are these gorgeous reels I have been ignorant about?!

Thanks for the photos, Chris. They kind of look like a modern version of a Heddon Imperial 125.


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Post 27 Sep 2011, 07:51 • #11 
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I read that lawsuit at one time or another. I think you can find it on line.

Per some of the points below, practicality/economics goes into the decision to sue, but they still do it. Here's a more recent one that is kind of interesting, Cortland v. Orvis this time: http://www.law.cornell.edu/patent/comments/99_1081.htm

Not being a big fan of legal research, I didn't look around long enough to find the earlier suit. Infringement or not, the Cortland reel is great to see and very nicely executed.


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Post 28 Sep 2011, 22:48 • #12 
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They are beautiful reels! I had no idea they existed until just now. I have always loved the Hardy Sirrus, which I think is very similar to a CFO? Now these look even better!

Cheers,
Mike


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Post 29 Sep 2011, 02:59 • #13 
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Great reels - thanks for the post. I have the 2300 in the darker finish but I've always thought those silver models were among the most handsome fly reels I've ever seen.


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Post 29 Sep 2011, 06:39 • #14 
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I wonder if the same type of lawsuit would hold water in today's reel market.


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Post 29 Sep 2011, 06:51 • #15 
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the real question is whether a plaintiff would be willing to pursue it.
Pflueger and Shakespeare were never out of court until Shakespeare bought Pflueger.
They were in court over patent infringement claims continuously from 1915-63.

I don't think you would see Orvis pursue something like this today. Tackle is just a sideline for them, and is not profitable.
In the 70s-80s it was different, and Orvis ran their fly fishing schools, destinations and endorsements with a sharpened cutlass.
Anybody could sell Orvis, but to get their endorsement and national exposure, you had to exclusively sell Orvis.


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Post 29 Sep 2011, 11:09 • #16 
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Great looking reel! too bad they are out of market ... it looks nicer than CFO ...
Paired with yellow fenwick is a bright idea!


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Post 29 Sep 2011, 12:53 • #17 
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Chris,

Looks like a recent aquisition arrived safely! Fantastic collection you have ... Lovely photos as well!

Mikey


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Post 30 Sep 2011, 04:58 • #18 
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PSA: Bob Selb's Classic Fly Fisherman has a 2200 if anyone is interested.


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Post 01 Oct 2011, 06:48 • #19 
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Chris,

Thanks for sharing and nice picture of the family! I checked out the Japanese site with the Cantata reels. Does anyone know how much these reels cost in American dollars? Thanks Matt


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Post 04 Mar 2012, 22:02 • #20 
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Here's the inside view of my 2400
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Post 06 Mar 2012, 02:54 • #21 
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Here are all the papers on these rods and reels.
/Chris

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Post 07 Mar 2012, 12:18 • #22 
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I remember when CRI came into being. They had a Melville, NY address, which happens to be where I live. I never saw any of their products first hand but I remember being put off somewhat by the name. Another case of someone trying to brand a foreign-made product with a name suggestive of U.S. manufacture.


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