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Post 06 Jun 2013, 20:29 • #1 
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Well ... it looks like Redington wants in on the glass game with the introduction of their "Butter Stick" series today with this press release ...

http://pitch.pe/13di6ON

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A demo 6' three weight arrived today and it's pretty fun. Matched with a Redington Drift 2/3 fly reel it makes for a neat outfit.

I wish the price point would have come in closer to $200. It's well put together and though I can't speak for the entire series this this little three weight casts quite nicely. It's softer than I expected it might be ... which is a good thing.


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Post 06 Jun 2013, 21:24 • #2 
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It's nice to see another company getting in to the glass game.


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Post 06 Jun 2013, 21:45 • #3 
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I'm listening.

Do you know who makes the blank?


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Post 06 Jun 2013, 23:07 • #4 
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Cameron wrote:
I wish the price point would have come in closer to $200.

I agree. I think it would have been far better for them to come in between $150-200. The Redington CT rod at $150 got some pretty decent acclaim. While $250 isn't over the top, it might be high enough that those on the fence with fiberglass may not want to take the plunge and give it a try.


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Post 07 Jun 2013, 00:03 • #5 
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If it is a Lamiglas build (looks like the derivative yellow blank with red wraps) then maybe it is worth the $250.00. My Tica Flea cost less than $100.00 and I love the thing. Yes it is Chinese I believe.


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Post 07 Jun 2013, 01:46 • #6 
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It seems like the lower weight rods may come with reel seat rings (sliding bands). What did the 3wt come with Cameron?

... malcolm


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Post 07 Jun 2013, 09:16 • #7 
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Nice to see someone "reinvent" fiberglass.


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Post 07 Jun 2013, 10:04 • #8 
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they have to imply it was broken before they fixed it.


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Post 07 Jun 2013, 10:25 • #9 
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With Redington's history of producing good fishing rods at moderate prices I'll be following this one ... Too bad their marketing jargon doesn't do anything to bring fiberglass into the 21st century. "Good old days" "retro" and "old-fashion". They might as well be saying this is your grandfathers fly rod.


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Post 07 Jun 2013, 10:44 • #10 
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They still have to sell graphite to an indoctrinated market.
You know the people who write this stuff probably don't fish at all.


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Post 07 Jun 2013, 10:57 • #11 
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That would explain it.
Also, I guess I should have said, it's too bad they didn't do more to bring fiberglass into the 21st century. They did "reinvent" it after all. Pa-lease!


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Post 07 Jun 2013, 17:19 • #12 
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With Orvis and not the Sage/Redington conglomerate dipping their toes into the Fiberglass waters, things could get interesting.

Good - I love the name Redington chose - Butter Stick - and they matched it with a bright yellow blank. There will be no mistaking these for graphite rods. Redington describes the action as slow. Cameron describes it as softer than expected. The rod weights are very similar to Redington's graphite builds, so these aren't built on old school, heavy, glass blanks. The color scheme and wood spacer reelseat are nice touches. Three piece, 8 foot, 5 weights are a sweet spot for glass (as are the shorter, lighter rods). This sounds good so far.

Bad - A Western Super Fine grip with an uplocking seat is NOT retro and NEVER will be. In my opinion the Western Super Fine is the worst grip ever and an uplocking reelseat makes it even worse. At least the sliding ring model looks like it has a cigar grip long enough to hold comfortably. The purple PR prose is a bit much (Redington Reinvents Fiberglass ... ..features premium componentry [sic?! ] ... Redington brings fun to fly fishing. [WT%$#@?] - who writes this stuff?).

The $249 sticker price is very interesting. For glass this is competitive, not cheap, but competitive. Orvis, Hardy, and Scott are priced higher. Cabelas is much lower. These are even cheaper than the entry level Sage Approach. However, most Redington graphite is priced considerably lower. At this price the Butter Stick may get some looks at the store, but many buyers won't reach past the cheaper Redingtons for their next rod (or the TFOs on the next rack). This could lead to a situation like the Cortland Diamondglass in a year or so, with shops selling the rods off at cost to clear inventory. Cameron is right, a $199 sticker price would have a much better chance on the market.

Recommendation - Find the stores stocking Butter Sticks. If you find one you really like buy it - the good ones will be gone in a heartbeat (remember the Dglass 8'6" 4 weight?). Then watch carefully. If they sell well, that is good for our favorite material. If they don't sell well, watch for the fire sales (that is good for us as buyers). The retro Fenwicks and Diamondglass are more appreciated now than they ever were while they were in stores.

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Post 07 Jun 2013, 19:27 • #13 
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Hear, hear!

Especially the grip critique.

It would be nice if a manufacturer bought into the concept of slow to moderate action, as defined by fiberglass rather than graphite.


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Post 07 Jun 2013, 22:05 • #14 
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Tom ... excellent break down.

For whatever reason the PR people for Sage, Redington, and RIO have a dozen or so catch words that they go overboard and drown each press release with. "Reinvent". Hardly ... but we'll see where this series goes.


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Post 07 Jun 2013, 22:42 • #15 
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jgestar wrote:
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Bad - A Western Super Fine grip with an uplocking seat is NOT retro and NEVER will be. In my opinion the Western Super Fine is the worst grip ever and an uplocking reelseat makes it even worse.

Tom

I can't agree more ... the worst possible grip choice to be made. Also, I can live with, but really don't like the shiny silver seat hardware.

And I would rather stab myself with a fork than have "good old fashioned fun" with a "retro" "butter stick" that has "reinvented" glass rods. "Harken" and "cool" don't belong in the same paragraph. I'm not so worried about who writes this crap as I am that a fly fishing company would be willing to release it as a marketing effort.


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Post 07 Jun 2013, 22:42 • #16 
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I'll just wait for a couple of years for these to be on closeout, just like every other Redington rod I've seen.


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Post 08 Jun 2013, 06:04 • #17 
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lonefisherman wrote:
I'll just wait for a couple of years for these to be on closeout, just like every other Redington rod I've seen.

Yup, wouldn't surprise me if Sierra and MRFC are already negotiating deals with Redington.

My all time favorite fiberglass rod description has to go to the guys at Blue Halo- No description of the blanks action, glass type, or design.

"These fiberglass rod blanks are extremely durable and fun to fish. While fishing in the sun, some people might think that you are fishing with a light saber. They are really cool looking rods, and you can customize them to whatever specifications that your heart desires.
These rod blanks are a very desirable color for the traditionalist fly rodder."

"Build an old-school fiberglass rod with a new-school aesthetic. These rod blanks will turn heads – both human and fish."

And then there is the colors " casino green, cranberry, nude blonde, sun drop, sky blue. For some reason I feel like washing my eyes out with soap and water after reading that stuff.

Baker

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Post 08 Jun 2013, 12:00 • #18 
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Don't forget Papa Sage's famous tagline for the "Circa"

In pursuit of fast, we re-invented Slow

... so, its OK to use the dreaded word SLOW now for rod descriptions


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Post 08 Jun 2013, 12:07 • #19 
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I think what Tom said is right for the most part.To me it's a little hard to criticize a rod that we have only seen in pictures.As for me I'll hold my judgment until I actually pick one up and cast it.Like I said in my earlier post just nice to see another company offering glass as an option.


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Post 08 Jun 2013, 13:54 • #20 
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Lordideme wrote:
I think what Tom said is right for the most part.To me it's a little hard to criticize a rod that we have only seen in pictures.As for me I'll hold my judgment until I actually pick one up and cast it.Like I said in my earlier post just nice to see another company offering glass as an option.

Very true.

And I totally agree that companies realizing that "slow" isn't a bad word is good for the future.


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Post 08 Jun 2013, 14:57 • #21 
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At least they're reinventing butter instead of rebar.






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Post 08 Jun 2013, 21:51 • #22 
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Good for Redington, yes, except that they are misinformed as to what most of us want in a rod's components/aesthetics. And I agree with others who say that this rod would likely sell better priced under $200. Having said that, I'd wait to pass judgement until I cast it. I see this as a rod that appeals to first time glass buyers looking specifically for a modern rod at an entry level price point. Lamiglas has been mentioned, but does anyone know for sure what blanks these are?


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Post 08 Jun 2013, 22:35 • #23 
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Since Redington is owned by Sage, my guess is that they are rolling their own glass blanks.


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Post 08 Jun 2013, 22:46 • #24 
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Far Bank enterprises owns Sage, Rio and Redington. Every Redington rod I've seen was made in China. At $249 I'm guessing the Redington glass blank is rolled and assembled in China also.


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Post 08 Jun 2013, 23:26 • #25 
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I emailed Redington when this trend started to congratulate them on getting In the glass game and to see where the blank came from.I sent an email to the tech contact but I have not gotten a response yet good customer service?.Still I'll hold my judgement till I cast the rod.

FYI I don't own or have never fished a Redington rod just to be fair.


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