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Post 13 Jun 2009, 16:30 • #1 
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Anyone ever try one of these lures?

When I first got back into fishing about 8 yrs. ago,
spinning-fishing for trout in streams;
I bought some of these unique little lures;
but never actually used them.
(I only spin-fished for Trout for only a few seasons,
before moving-on to fly fishing ... 'Rooster Tails' were my mainstays back then.)

Fast-forward to today,
and while preparing my 9 yr old Son's stuff for an overnight camping-trip to his friend's pond,
and he asked that I rig him up with a fishing pole to take.

I looked through my old stuff to come up with something that I thought that he could manage by himself,
and that wouldn't get hung-up in the weeds too bad. So, I had the idea to take one of these Joe's Flies,
and I snapped-off the redundant, trailing treble-hook from the back of the fly, and after lining it on a swivel,
I added a single, small shot about 6" up from the lure.

When we got to the pond,
I had him cast it out while I was there just to see how well it would do.
He caught a fish (all panfish, and one decent LMB) on almost every of the 5-6 casts I watched him make.
I was pretty surprised this lure and rig did so well.

Anyone else ever use something similar for panfish and bass?

PS I could lie and say the ultralight rod we were using was fiberglass, but I'd be ... ah ... lying.
So I won't.


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Post 14 Jul 2009, 00:31 • #2 
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A friend of mine uses those all the time. He like them for smaller rivers, he casts in the current with a really slow retrieve and lets the water flow give the lure all the action. He catches a LOT of small bass etc on those.


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Post 14 Jul 2009, 13:23 • #3 
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I still have a box full of Joe's Flies. Good stuff. Another panfish killer: the Flatfish. I know a couple older guys that fish the F-2's for trout off of a fly rod.


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Post 15 Jul 2009, 06:59 • #4 
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FWIW, Joe's Flies is still a going concern. I was just talking to them at the ICAST show about an hour ago. They are in West Virginia and they have a "new" line of classic bass flies in size 10 with a size 0 Colorado blade in front. Perfect for rock bass on the creek. Look for a couple pics on the ICAST write-up on FFO later this week.

Joe C.


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Post 15 Jul 2009, 07:25 • #5 
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Corlay: My all time favorite ultra light spinning lure is a yellow or chartreuse mister twister 1/16 oz spinnerbait, it never fails!

Cornmuse: Glad to hear Joe's flies is still in business, is is a cottage industry of sorts?

Wayne


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Post 15 Jul 2009, 09:02 • #6 
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They're a small company for sure. Just a couple of guys who build spinners. I did like what I saw, though. And they were VERY receptive to fly rod applications. We spent a few minutes discussing size/weight limitations on fly rod gear and they clearly get the whole concept of ultralight. They sell a 1/32 ounce spoon that I'm sure would kill crappies, trout or perch by the bushel load.

Joe C.


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Post 16 Jul 2009, 10:47 • #7 
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Actually guys, this type of lure started out as a fly rod lure. To give a little history, Big John Hildebrandt hammered out a dime to make a spinner with his pocket knife over 100 years ago. He may not have made the first spinner but he did come up with the little piece of metal that allowed the spinner to spin around the metal wire shaft rapidly. The Hildebrandt company is still around but I think it is now owned by a Chinese lure manufacturer. This type of lure has evolved into lures we now call Mepps, Rooster Tails, etc.

I make my brother a few dozen of these type of lures every year for Christmas. They're pretty easy to make.

If you ask me to open up my Smallmouth fly box, you'll see a few of these contraptions there. They are very effective.

CrustyBugger


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Post 16 Jul 2009, 13:48 • #8 
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Hey Corlay - Which Joe's Flies pattern did your son use? I've recently been corrupted by an extreme ultralight fisherman and I'm having trouble finding lures that are 1/8th ounce or less for our gear (we use custom 6' spinning rods made from 3wt full-flex fly rod blanks with vintage ultralight reels lined with 6x tippet material).
Cornmuse - Can you tell me where I can find the 1/32 oz spoon?

Thanks guys!
- Pete


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Post 16 Jul 2009, 22:07 • #9 
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The company doesn't show a URL on their catalog, which is quite extensive. They do have a phone number, however. I'd suggest calling Joe's Flies at 304.623.3921 and asking for a full line catalog and to find a retailer near you. I'm confident they'll work with you directly if there isn't a shop that can order in their product.

joe C.


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Post 17 Jul 2009, 02:01 • #10 
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PeteStiles wrote:
Hey Corlay - Which Joe's Flies pattern did your son use?
He used the "Light Cahill" model:
http://www.joesflies.com/ ... =30&cat=1&page=2

But next time up there,
I rigged my Daughter up with "Joe's Favorite":
http://www.joesflies.com/ ... =47&cat=1&page=4

and she caught fish, too.

Lastly,
my BIL "cottage-sits" for a month every July for a friend to take care of his pets while they are away,
and I gave him this 'Royal Coachman" model to try:
http://www.joesflies.com/ ... =64&cat=1&page=4
The lake he is on has a wide assortment of species:
panfish
LM bass
pickeral
crappie
perch

I'll see him this Sunday out there
(bringing my fly rod of course!)
and I'll report back how he did on it.


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Post 17 Jul 2009, 02:03 • #11 
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Cornmuse wrote:
They're a small company for sure. Just a couple of guys who build spinners.
cool.

well then, that's quite a coup they pulled-off,
getting Dick's Sporting Goods to carry their product, I must say!
(that's where I bought mine)


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Post 17 Jul 2009, 04:04 • #12 
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Thanks for the great info. I'm going to have to figure out how to put a weed guard on these!


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Post 17 Jul 2009, 05:02 • #13 
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PeteStiles wrote:
I'm going to have to figure out how to put a weed guard on these!
Pete,

Just snip-off the trailing treble hook (attached by a small loop of sh=tout monofiliment).
This leaves you with a single hook @ the fly.

I noticed no missed hook-ups with fish as a result of this mod,
and it did not get hung-up in the weeds too bad, either.


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Post 17 Jul 2009, 13:04 • #14 
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Right on - I hate treble hooks. They same designed to snag everything but fish.


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