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Post 09 Jun 2022, 08:59 • #1 
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After two seasons of fishing almost nothing but glass fly rods I’m missing spinning rods a little. When it’s windy I’ve used some moderate graphite spinning rods but I want some light glass rods for trout/bass/pickerel fishing.

I like vintage rods for fly fishing as metal guides work fine with fly lines. I’d much prefer Fuji aluminum oxide guides, having had more than a few negative experiences with metal guides over the years.

Anyone have insight on this?


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Post 09 Jun 2022, 11:56 • #2 
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There was a whole marketplace of great glass rods from the mid-late 70s with aluminum oxide guides.
Here's my Phillipson Epoxite ES66 matched with hardy Exalta (ball-bearing drive)

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I'm sure Shane will build you whatever you want with Fuji guides of your choice.

Might even check with Ricks Rods in Denver for OS Phillipson blanks.

Also Randy Johnson /Retroglass for Fisher blanks.

The only time you absolutely must have ceramic guides is fishing braid.


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Post 09 Jun 2022, 15:57 • #3 
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The spinning rods I've fished with over the past 40 years have all had Aetna foulproofs on them, not a single negative experience, and none of them have grooved. I'm putting a rod together, hopefully this summer, and it will get foulproofs. And besides, they just look right on an older rod. Personally, I see no advantage to ceramics, but thats just my opinion.

Tim


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Post 10 Jun 2022, 06:37 • #4 
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Tim,

Thanks for the info. I just don’t have much experience with them. Maybe I have a go


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Post 10 Jun 2022, 18:54 • #5 
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like you I've grooved up a lot of metal guides over the years.. but now I don't have enough time to fish and too many rods, so it's irrelevant. I have a couple of Fenwick spin/fly travel rods with the looped wire guides. These are in good condition and I don't expect them to wear out anytime soon. I've even fished braid on these rods on a couple of BWCA trips.

Back in the bad old days there were a lot of metal/wire guides that weren't very good quality. All the spin rods I've ever built use Fuji guides, rebuilt a couple of them with Fujis when the metal guides wore out, never had to replace any of those. If you get a vintage spin rod with worn guides, it's usually quite straightforward to replace them.


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Post 10 Jun 2022, 23:31 • #6 
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The rod I've owned the longest is a 5 foot Shakespeare spin rod (from the late 60s). I caught a couple times my body weight of snapper blues with that rod. I wore/rusted off the original metal guides. I replaced them a couple of times with new metal guides, which also didn't last long. Next I rebuilt the rod with a set of double foot Fujis, but too many guides that were too heavy. They turned the rod sluggish. Finally, I replaced those with single foot, light Fuji spinning guides. Perfect. Those guides have been going strong for 25+ years.

AETNA foulproof guides would be nice too, but they are tough to find.


Tom


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Post 11 Jun 2022, 06:36 • #7 
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Both Gutebrod and PacBay list them, and mudhole carries the PacBay, but I don't believe RE: building rods was what the OP was asking.


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Post 12 Jun 2022, 19:14 • #8 
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Thanks to all for the information. If the guides on the Fenwick fs65 are shot I will rewrap with silver Fuji single foot guides. If not, I will fish it until they wear out.

I used to build glass spinning rods for light tackle striped bass, fluke, and blue fishing. Lamiglas mb842f and a similar seeker blank. They were far more fun than graphite rods for smaller fish and evoked less worry with larger ones due to durability. All three were broken, sold, or in the case of the last, stolen.

I hope to add some functional classic reels to the mix shortly.


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