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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 09 Feb 2020, 00:14 • #26 
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I Ron,
Thanks for the advice about kids gear.
I received the open box Tica 1500. I like it a lot so far.
It seems brand new.


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 11 Feb 2020, 22:09 • #27 
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I really enjoyed fishing mine in salt XUL niche last weekend, and it landed about half the fish I caught at Arroyo
(larger lures on the Stradic found One fish, though everything got sipping strikes - the baitcaster landed hard-heads and stingray, though I think I missed a flounder).

The SX1500 drag performed flawlessly with big fish on 6-lb copolymer.
The XUL rockfish rods have the butt to turn big fish when needed - they're made with a super-soft tip, fast graphite over lower 70%, and a graphite weave layer on the butt section.
Pretty sure I mentioned I also picked up a second spool from Tica America customer service (for relative peanuts), which I lined with 10-lb for ML salt niche.

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That Stradic with the blue knob is about to get a facelift. I need a spare spool, anyway, and found a gray +blue-trim Yumeya spool on a Japan website, the Yumeya "jewelry" spool with listed sale price competing with the stock Shimano spare spool (they'e selling Yumeya spools for 2 to 3 times my price on ebay. Of course, it's still not peanuts like the spare Tica spools.

A great habit on all your spinning reels is closing the bail manually rather than using the crank mechanism to close the bail.
Whether your reel is a Cetus or a Stella, not using the internal auto-bail hammer extends gear life.
Since your hand and mind are close to the spool, it also prevents backlashes and line twist (especially important with braid).


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 05 Mar 2020, 13:22 • #28 
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Planning a kayak trip two weeks away.
I'll be outfitting our friend Randy with a boat and tackle.
Here's the Libra 1500 on 6'6" Falcon Open Hook Special ML, 10-lb braid, 1' 15-lb fluoro shock tippet, looped to a micro bite trace.
Very light in hand and will cast far.
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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 09 May 2020, 12:08 • #29 
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Hi Ron,
I just picked up an sx3000 on Amazon for $77. I had a price alert set at $65 but couldn't pass up $77.
Reel just arrived. This will be my primary pike reel and now my 4400ss will be the backup or loaner.
I like it but I probably won't be able to fish for a least another month.

I'm wondering if you have every handled the sx2500? I'm thinking about picking one up for my bass rod.
They are unavailable on Amazon, but some sellers have them on ebay.
Thanks


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 09 May 2020, 16:07 • #30 
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Paul, if I had ever seen an SX2500, would have probably grabbed it - I've never seen one for sale, only 1500, 3000, and 4500.
I checked the weights on Tica's website, and it must be an intermediate body size - that would make it very nice to find.
Tica reels have a really good showing in Europe, and that may be some of the ebay sources. I've bought really well from both Croatia and Russia tackle vendors (not reels, but Halco and Mako terminal traces).


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 09 May 2020, 20:28 • #31 
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I just bought an sx2500 on Ebay. I will report back when I receive


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 12 May 2020, 11:06 • #32 
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I don't want to side track this thread, but I find this to be a very interesting thread on a product I was not aware of prior to reading this. I've been using Shimano almost exclusively for 30+ years for freshwater fishing (pike, walleye, trout), but find myself looking for less expensive alternatives lately. However, it seems like Tica has numerous models to choose from and their website doesn't make it easy to determine levels of quality within their product line. For instance, what would be the next model up from the Libra? Also, from your experience, do most of the 500 series reels have aluminum spools or are the spools composite or does it vary with product line?
Regards,
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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 12 May 2020, 12:29 • #33 
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Hi Ron,
being familiar with Tica's line, I would say the Libra SX stands out for all the reasons I posted, and the Cetus SS500 stands out for micro-size reels.
Though Tica makes some very good cost-effective surf reels (Samiira).
I personally would (and do) stick to Shimano Stradic as the next rung on the ladder.

Tica optimized the old locomotive style oscillation to get the same quality of line management and long stroke function Shimano gets on the Stradic and Stella, and the Libra uses their "IOS", along with the big offshore Cybernetic.
Being able to fill the spool all the way really makes a difference in casting.


If you look at Tica's weights, they pile on with Tica's worm drive, and most of their sealed reels aren't really needed outside of the surf.
Might also keep in all mind my spin-fishing is salt and mostly inshore.
Regards,
Ron


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 12 May 2020, 13:07 • #34 
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Thanks for that Ron, very good points. I don't fish salt often and don't want a heavy reel for my use. Perhaps the Libra is the way to go for freshwater use. Shimano Stradic are nice but really expensive here in Canada. I usually buy the models just below Stradic like the discontinued Symetre (I think replaced by the Nasci) in 2500 and the 500UL sizes. I tried a Pflueger Supreme XT (which is $$$ currently around $200CAD) and it was not as smooth as the lower-budget Shimano.
Looks like the Tica Libra at $125CAD on Amazon.ca would fit in just under the Shimano Nasci $140CAD for me, so I think it would be worth a look. Ya there are lots of used Stradic around but I hesitate buying reels used and guys still want high $$ for them.
I would like to know what the spool is made of on Cetus SS500. Is it aluminum or plastic?
Ron


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 12 May 2020, 14:14 • #35 
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Watch for closeouts on the Stradic FK - $150, and you can even find the Stradic CI4+ from Japan for $150.
These prices may drop lower as both Shimano's and especially Daiwa's 2020 models are introduced this year.


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 12 May 2020, 16:37 • #36 
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Hi Ron,
Is there any reason not to use a reel marketed for Saltwater use in freshwater?
So far I really like the SX3000 although I have not fished it yet. The reel balances nicely on my St. Croix Tidemaster Travel 7'6" MH (tidemaster is also marketed to saltwater but I bought it for pike since I needed a 2-3 piece rod) this combo has nice balance and also the colors go well together (I like matching or contrasting colors with my equipment as many of us on this board do)

Thanks again


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 13 May 2020, 06:36 • #37 
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Paul, none whatsoever - you're using sealed stainless bearings and shafts, is all.
Inshore salt uses basically the same size tackle you'd use for bass, pike or steelhead.
Longer steelhead rods can be helpful in the salt where you need longer casts, and similar to bass fishing, shorter rods are usually better for inshore sight-fishing

You bought a great rod.
My kayak hold always has two 3-pc fly rods (unless one of them is rigged), and a spare 3-pc of each bait and spinning. Any of these are also handy to take on a center console, where they stash behind the front seat cushion or in big dry box.

My lap hatch carries a spare spinning spool and spare bait reel.
My back-up bait rod was Cabelas Salt Striker Travel on close-out for $50, and it's built on the TFO Traveler blank ($200).

My back-up spinning rod is TD Silver Hook IM6, and often gets to be a loaner when I'm outfitting friends.
great rod, 32" travel tube with rod in sock and enough room for second 3-pc.
This is a $100 rod.

the action of this rod really reminds me of my 30-year 8-1/2' Loomis GL2, and even the same color

As long as I'm showing rod porn, and since someone may search IM6 or e-glass on this forum page, Crowder makes very nice 1-pc IM6 inshore rods in their E-series Lite.
Crowder also makes a moderately priced E-glass series in spinning, casting and offshore conventional.
No multipieces, though


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 13 May 2020, 08:11 • #38 
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Nice rig/setup Ron. Any recommendations for 2 pc 6'6" - 7'6" durable glass spinning rods for freshwater fishing (mainly pike, but perhaps bass and walleye too).


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 13 May 2020, 08:50 • #39 
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see what you can find on Lami Classic Glass - I topped the contemporary glass rods thread.
After searching around, looks like they discontinued the spinning rods, and only offer casting now...

What I did gain from searching, though, St. Croix offers a lower priced glass rod in Mojo Bass Glass spinning (1pc)

Tica offers glass and graphite-blend on their offshore rods.
They do offer this Kokanee trolling rod in spinning/glass/2-pc, and it might be a very nice rod if you like the light-line all-range approach to fishing (check the Threadliners thread).
The traditional Kokanee trolling rod is based on a fly rod blank, the same as XUL spinning.
https://www.amazon.com/Tica-KLEA-Kokane ... 9KS70?th=1
Note Tica lists up to 10-lb line and 1/4-oz lures.


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 13 May 2020, 09:03 • #40 
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Thanks Ron I did see that in the Threadliners thread. I'm intrigued. I will look at getting one. However, I might want something a bit heavier for pike and not sure if the Tica KLEA will pair with the Libra SX3000 or if the SX2500 would be better for pairing with this particular rod.


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 13 May 2020, 09:15 • #41 
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I agree, I'd match that rod with an UL reel - the SX1500 would be a nice match, or the 800 Cetus


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 13 May 2020, 13:20 • #42 
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I do not have any recommendations for 2 piece glass pike rods as I have also been unable to find many.
I am a St. Croix fan as they had a good pro program for me when I was a guide years ago. I also just like them and most of their products are made in the USA.
I am an enthusiastic pike fisherman, but no expert. I have found a few rods suitable to my needs.
Not glass, but this is what I have found.
I have the Tidemaster Travel TISMHF3 a 3 piece MH fast rod for 1/2 - 1 1/4. I use it for trolling and casting bigger stuff. I'm planning to get the next lighter rod in the series also as I rarely cast anything larger than 3/4.
I also like the premier line at a cheaper price point. PS70HF2 or the PS66MHF2

There are not a lot of rods out their suitable for pike in 2 piece configurations. I need 2-3 pieces as I go on a few fly in trips per year. One piece 7 foot rods do not go on a Dehavilland beaver.

My Tidemaster has double foot guides all the way to the tip which at least in my mind makes it more durable. Maybe, maybe not.
My Tidemaster seems to balance well and look good with these Tica reels. Hopefully I will be fishing them in July if the Canadian border is open by then. We'll see.


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 13 May 2020, 13:51 • #43 
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I am a bit of a St.Croix fan too and used them exclusively for fly fishing until I got into cane (and now glass) rods. Still have a Legend Ultra 7'9" 3wt, a Legend Ultra 9'9" 7wt and a Legend Elite 8'6" 6wt fly rods.
As for a pike rod, a three piece could work too. Ideally, I would like a 7'6" (or so) MH durable all glass or even glass/graphite hybrid spinning rod for pike that would mesh well with that Libra SX3000 size reel. For the last number of years I have been using Fenwick (HMG, HMX) rods for walleye and by default, pike too.However, I would like a slightly longer heavier rod that I could troll with of use on rivers.
I have to say those St.Croix Legend glass rods looks great, but 1 pc will never work for me.
Anyway thanks for the advice, I will have a look at Tidemaster.
Ron


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 13 May 2020, 14:34 • #44 
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Just more info on the Tidemaster, mine has double foot guides all the way down. Some guys like that, some guys don't. I guess it adds to the weight, but I like them that way on heavier rods.
The pictures on St. Croix website show single foot guides on the tidemaster series.


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 13 May 2020, 15:00 • #45 
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If you really want glass, another suggestion is to go old school. I have a few Fenwick spinning rods from the 70's
For a lighter pike rod my PLS70 is good for 1/4-5/8. It's 2 piece. The PLS70s is the same but the s designation is for ceramic guides.
On the heavier side is the lunker stik line. PLS72 is 1/2-1 also 2 piece. These rods are easy to find from $50-100
I have a few of these rods and I use them as backup. I would say these old fenwicks are as durable as they come.


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 13 May 2020, 15:15 • #46 
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St. Croix Triumph is IM6, and they offer two 2-pc ML rods, each $110
6 ft 6 in Medium Fast TRS66MF2 6 - 12 1/4 oz-5/8
7 ft 0 in Medium Fast TRS70MF2 6 - 12 1/4 oz - 5/8

And I'll mention again the TD Silver Hook Travel rod (IM6) is worth owning, available in MM and MH.

I've fished my SX3000 on 9' Lami G1000 ML with 10-lb fluoro, and it's a joy - in fact, that's the redfish I show above on this page, and more than a few seatrout at Arroyo, throwing 3/8-oz. Tsunami SS3 in Novembers at Arroyo.


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 13 May 2020, 15:47 • #47 
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Well I have time to find a pike rod as the Libra SX3000 is sold out through Amazon right now.
HOWEVER, thanks to you guys I now have the Libra SX1500 and Tica KLEA 7'6" UL glass rod on order. ;)


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 13 May 2020, 17:48 • #48 
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looking forward to your report on the combo

I noticed there's a few listings out there for Tica Libra SL with worm drive, and 3 more BB (probably on the worm shaft and rider) - they may finally phase out the SX in favor of the new reel. They appear to be currently marketing this reel in Spain, with two other listings in UK and Russia. Tica Samira has a big following in South America - the only paper I can find on the Libra SL is in Spanish.
The reel doesn't show up on either Tica website, but apparently Sportsman's Guide has sold out their first batch.
From Spain websites, appears they're using carbon body to keep the weight down.
I did find the schematic
https://www.reelschematic.com/wp-conten ... Series.pdf


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 13 May 2020, 17:49 • #49 
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are the Libra SL the same sizes as SX?


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 13 May 2020, 18:46 • #50 
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all I can find listed are the 2500 and 4000, and I'm guessing they match those two reel bodies in the SX.

I chased on the schematic they added spool and worm shaft BB

Back to the sizes, worked out the 2500/3000 are the small body size on the SL,
which is consistent with all the new worm-drive Tica models (Talisman, Samira, Galant - all rubber sealed, more weight, stiffer drive, best for surf)
I'm guessing the SL4000 body matches the size of the SX3000, but the spec tables are limited:

the capacity appears to be braid lb-test, following Japan "Gou" numbers for braid:
That 135 meters #22 is also 8-lb mono for the SL2500
The 240 meters #32 is equivalent to 14-lb mono for the SL4000

From the pick-up rate and gear ratios, the SL4000 spool diameter matches the SX3000, and it weights 1.5 oz more - more stainless drive components.
The SL2500 matches the weight of SX2500, but lower pick-up rate for the different gear ratios, so smaller spool diameter - when I compared it to the SX1500, came up with the same spool, so the SL2500/3000 body matches the size of the SX1500.
They're doing like Shimano and compressing to 3 body sizes rather than 4 they have in the SX series.


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