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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 22 Jun 2020, 21:22 • #101 
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I got a deal on a Tica Samira SAAT 1000h reel on Amazon so I bought it. I received the reel in the mail today.
I do not have the technical knowledge that Ron has but I thought I would report about my thoughts.
1. I was pleasantly suprised about the physical size. This reel is right in between my Libra SX1500 and SX 2500. The reel will look and balance nicely on my medium or medium light St. Croix rods.
2. The reel does not spin as nicely as the Libra. Maybe grease need broken in, maybe worm drive, I don't know but very nice anyway
3. The drag clicker is louder and less refined than the Libra
4. I really like this small sized round knob on all these reels
Looks, size and balance are important to me and this reel will fill a need between my light setups and my medium heavy pike setups
Here's a picture for size

This is my 7' medium St. Croix Premier


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 22 Jun 2020, 21:49 • #102 
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that is a nice size reel. My SL2500 started off really stiff and slicked up after I lined it.
The Samira also has rubber seals which may make it a bit stiffer.


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 22 Jun 2020, 22:43 • #103 
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HI Ron,
I also like black and gold although this reel isn't really black it's kind of a deep blue/purple with flecks.
The tightness doesn't bother me wether it loosens up or not.

When I bought this one, there were 2 available. I wish I had bought them both. Instead I bought a 2000h which should be here tomorrow.

The new H series has a higher gear ratio. I don't think that will bother me but I'm wondering if the lower ration would be better for me. Who knows.


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 23 Jun 2020, 00:00 • #104 
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Ron, what are you fishing for with the second spool has 6-lb braid, Sufix 832 with 10-lb copolymer shock tippet?

Ribs - any idea what spool Tica America is offering as a replacement for the Libra SX 1500?


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 23 Jun 2020, 00:16 • #105 
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Hi Ron,
They did not say. I decided to buy an extra reel instead.
Also, I think Bonnie is the best person to talk to there.


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 23 Jun 2020, 18:41 • #106 
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Eastslope wrote:
Ron, what are you fishing for with the second spool has 6-lb braid, Sufix 832 with 10-lb copolymer shock tippet?
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Ron, the use of this spool is seatrout, casting the light lures or virtually weightless bait rig on 7'6" XUL or 7'9" UL (I have two longer in 3" increments). Having 4 rods rigged with different baits at hand really simplifies the change-up that's important to turn the schoolie fish - they get really smart under the dock lights - if they're all not chasing it, you don't get a strike.
The lightest lures I'll cast will be about 1/16th oz, and the heaviest about 3/16th-oz.
I'll be shooting for better than 100' casts. Caught my dad here pointlessly fishing after dawn.
The cigar cork rig has a small keel weight, weightless 1-2" live shrimp on a 1/0 croaker hook at the end of a 4' leader, and the cigar cork has pretty good air drag.
I put a 1" surgeon's loop in the shock tippet, which lets me loop-on all the hardware I want to use here, either a 6" Mako titanium bite trace for lures, or the 3" clicking cigar cork.

I also use the lightest-touch of Zap-CA+pink on my splicing braid knots, chased with an accelerator (Mitre Apel spray is convenient).
The main reason for the shock tippet is big fish - shock tippet adds toughness and resilience - something needs to give over just the rigid braid. Schoolie male specs can be up to about 23" - last Nov on Arroyo docks, every calendar day 5-fish bag limit had at least one over 20".
A discussion on corpusfishing board got a documented 28" male seatrout report, which is likely more rare than a 36" female. The big females don't school, but spread out and stake breeding turf on the flats.

Note that both the shock tippet and titanium bite trace will stretch before they break. It's also my preferred way of dealing with terminal ends. This is all salt fishing for me, but some form of mono leader is a good idea for anybody fishing braid, to get that shock toughness.

Different reel and just slightly more 8' rod that I'll take on a kayak in the winter, same line, same leader, and this has the same terminal end, fishing a 3/16th-oz Pins minnow with the titanium bite trace, imitating winter glass minnows in a tide pass.

And making long casts with the 8' UL rod and light lure.
To match the cast distance (from this shoal to the cut bank) with twice the lure weight (3/8 oz) and my long-casting SX3000 with 12-lb fluoro takes my 9' ML rod.


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 23 Jun 2020, 20:58 • #107 
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Another report,
I received my Tica Samira 2000h today. I was surprised that the frame is the same size as the 1000h. The 2000h just has a deeper spool.
I should have known since the weights are nearly the same. This was a pleasant surprise and I will keep both reels.
I'm very happy with these reels and excited for my next fishing trip.


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 23 Jun 2020, 23:17 • #108 
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Thanks for the responses Ron/ribs. I look forward to trying this Libra SX1500 out soon. Happy fishing.


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 23 Jun 2020, 23:28 • #109 
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I previously reported that the Samira drag clicker sounded rough. My 1000 was rough and the 2000 sounded fine.
I took the spool off the 1000 and sure enough the clicker spring was out of place. Popped it back in with a screwdriver and it sounds great now. The libra sx still sounds more refined but these Samira reels both sound good now.


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 28 Jun 2020, 07:52 • #110 
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More annoyance from the SL2500, this time the drag when I was trying to set up for salt ML.

Up front, the SX1500 drag is excellent, no problem when I set to 2-1/2 lbs for 10-lb braid.


The SL2500 spec sheet doesn't list a drag rating, and with good reason.
When I tried to set the drag as above with my spring scale, it quit at 1.8 lbs and stayed as I continued to tighten to the bitter end.

My thought was my nylon spool shim was giving up, and sure enough, when I pulled the spool, it had rolled inside the shoulder.
I've since accumulated some fractional-mm stainless shims with the correct diameters, so I replaced with those - took 5 of them to shim the 0.025" I needed to align the correct spool height.
But that didn't solve the problem - it still bottomed the drag knob at 1.9 lbs - I'd be happy with 2.2 lbs, but don't want any to bottom the drag knob.
Found the correct Carbontex washer, cheap on ebay, supposed to be a 20% drag improvement. As long as it's thicker than stock, will probably solve it for me - I'll look into using both washers when it gets here...
This uses the same drag washer as their low-grade Spinfocus, while the SX1500 washer is notably larger diameter, so chalk it up to the better Tica reels get better parts and tuning from the factory. And again, won't complain if my solution works - I don't really mind the tuning.


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Re: Tica Libra reels
Post 03 Jul 2020, 17:17 • #111 
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Received my carbontex drag washer.
When I removed the keyed washer, found a felt composition drag washer in the spool, that measured 0.035" inch thick.
The carbontex washer measured 0.040" thick, so used the carbontex solo.
Filmed with Cal's and reassembled, tightened it completely, making sure it wasn't bottomed, and could turn the spool with finger grip.
Measured 3-lbs drag on my spring scale, and backed it 6 clicks to 2-1/2 lbs.
Now have the reel working for 10-lb salt ML


Tom and I were discussing line rollers offline. I pointed out I like Libra's BB + bushing line roller better than Stradic's, that it's slicker, spins more freely, and easier to rebuild and oil.
The Tica line roller pin is fixed to the bail, shouldered for the thin bushing, and the BB shoulders in the other side of the line roller.
The Tica Taurus is the big brother of the Libra LS series, doesn't have the bushing shoulder on the line roller pin, and instead uses two 407-2.5 ball bearings


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