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Post 24 Dec 2011, 10:33 • #1 
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I'd like to know the model codes for all the different short Fenwick spin rods and matching blank numbers. It would be nice to know the length, number of pieces, color, rated lure weight, type of reel seat/grip. Also some rod prefixes are SP some are FS -- why? Here's what I have so far, can you supply missing info for each and add other models/blanks I don't have listed?

FS53 same as SP631-F 5'3" 2 piece brown screw lock grip
FS60 6'0" 2 piece brown 1/16 - 1/4 oz slide band grip
FS61 6'0" 2 piece brown screw lock grip
FS55 5'6" 2 piece brown 1/16 - 1/4 oz slide band grip
FS67-4 5'9" 4 piece brown 1/16 - 3/8 oz slide band grip
model 140 4'6" 1 piece brown slide band grip
model 149 4'9" 1 piece brown slide band grip
model 160 5'6" 2 piece brown aluminum ferrule with o-ring slide band grip
SP 681 5'8" yellow (what would the finished rod code be for this one?)
SP621 5'4" brown 1 piece (what would the finished rod code be for this one?)


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Post 24 Dec 2011, 10:36 • #2 
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I have one Fenwick UL rod, a FS67-4 5'9" 2 3/8oz. Rated 1/16-3/8 oz. Lures 1-4 Line. Its a great 4pc. UL rod with dual slide band grip.
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Post 24 Dec 2011, 10:53 • #3 
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OK, thanks Pete -- I'll add your info to the list above.


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Post 24 Dec 2011, 16:18 • #4 
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tiptop wrote:
Also some rod prefixes are SP some are FS -- why?

SP 681 5'8" yellow (what would the finished rod code be for this one?)
SP 621 5'4" brown 1 piece (what would the finished rod code be for this one?)

The SP series were sold as blanks, so there is no finished rod code for them.

My all time favorite UL spinning rod is the SP 681. In addition to fishing, I built mine for 1/4 oz. tournament casting (that I used to dabble in). Unfortunately it is the one rod of mine that lost an argument with a car door (while on a fishing trip) :(. I was able to make a fairly good repair, but it is still not the same. I keep my eye out for another SP 681 in any condition, except broken, to rebuild as a replacement. Hopefully someday.


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Post 24 Dec 2011, 17:47 • #5 
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So the same blanks (except for color) weren't used by Fenwick for their finished rods and unfinished blanks? Different lengths and tapers between finished rods and blanks for sale? I read in the archives of this section that the blanks were yellow glass to distinguish them from their finished rods. In my first post in this thread I listed the SP631-F as similar to the FS53 (I read this in the archives) -- is this correct?


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Post 25 Dec 2011, 15:46 • #6 
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One of the notable differences with the Fenwick yellow glass blanks (FL, SP, etc.) is that they were made as one piece on a single mandrel. Later in their history they were cut and ferruled with a tip over butt sleeve ferrule at the factory. (The factory Fenwick Feralite rods were made as two pieces on separate tip and butt mandrels with the 'integrated' tip over butt ferrule.)

I do not know if yellow glass blanks and factory brown glass rods had the same taper, e.g. whether the FL 96-6 and the FF806 are the same taper. rodmaker would probably be the best person to ask.

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Post 15 Jan 2012, 19:22 • #7 
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Hey Guys,

Not the old Fenwick Grizzley designs were different from the later Feralite blanks. While some of the parts were made on the same mandrels, most of them were quite different in action. Not that the older designs were bad, but generally slower action.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have specific questions, I may be able to help.

Wade


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Post 04 Jun 2020, 12:21 • #8 
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Hi,

Late to this post, but recently acquired an early "fenwick feralite fs60" "feralite pat. pending" inked script. It's a lovely blank and rod but yet to fish it "6' 2 3/8"

Interesting staggered design--butt is 26 1/2" with slide bands and tip section is 46 1/2"

(I think images are uploaded, if not PM contact email for photos)

Thanks Larry


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Post 04 Jun 2020, 12:45 • #9 
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love staggered ferrule rods - they always have the best action - keep working on the photos, we'd like to see them
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Post 04 Jun 2020, 16:51 • #10 
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Fenwick Feralite "fs60"







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Post 04 Jun 2020, 18:37 • #11 
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good job - thanks
If I was going to match it with a reel...
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Post 04 Jun 2020, 20:47 • #12 
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Ooh.


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Post 05 Jun 2020, 09:19 • #13 
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Bulldog,
Nice! What model Penn? I do have an older Mitchell 304/CAP to start but according to the seller this rod was originally matched with a green Luxor.


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Post 05 Jun 2020, 10:41 • #14 
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Luxor is a Great choice. The smoothest reel (not counting Hardy Altex) until the Penn 716 I show above.

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Post 06 Jun 2020, 16:12 • #15 
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Digression to reels, but how can you ID Luxor's 100 or no. 1 without markings?


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Post 08 Jun 2020, 06:58 • #16 
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found this good thread on a google image search
https://www.traditionalfisherman.com/vi ... 7&start=10

by far, the largest number of these reels were the Luxor A Luxe, which matches the later Crack 100 (late 60s-70s)

The big offshore reels have long handles, some with the open beam design - Luxor/Crack still have an offshore following.
https://ontariofishing.com/Spinning-Reels-Luxor-Reel/

here's a '37 half-bail, which also matches the A size.
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btw, don't be tempted to substitute with an Airex Bache Brown - they built Luxor under license with their own name/trademark, but my experience, the US-made reels are stiff and don't compare in quality to the French reels.


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Post 08 Jun 2020, 10:15 • #17 
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Did Fenwick make many staggered ferrule rods? Again, thank you for the help and sharing your incredible knowledge about "everything made" to fish and more!

Larry


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Post 08 Jun 2020, 11:06 • #18 
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Larry, don't know the answer, but I have a couple of staggered-ferrule S-glass fly rods among my favorites, two glass spinning rods (including the Airex glass just above), and all good cane spinning and bait rods were staggered ferrule. The idea is to get the stiff ferrule node outside of the working taper.


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Post 08 Jun 2020, 20:40 • #19 
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I can only think of one staggered ferrule fly rod they made (the GFF-806T, and its a rod from the 80's or early 90s) There might have been been a steelhead rod or pre-ferrulite rod, and I think there were a few spinning rods that fall into the category. As for other types, I have no idea.

While staggered ferrule can produce for great casting rods, it does make them harder to transport.


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Post 10 Jun 2020, 10:53 • #20 
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Did notice Bulldog's other posts re: Harnell spin rods. Model 656R is same staggered dimensions as this FS60 Maybe Harnell influence and made after Fenwick move from Kent, Washington to southern California.


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Post 04 Jul 2020, 11:25 • #21 
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I don’t know much about them but I have a Fenwick P329853
140 4 1/2 footer. Those are the numbers on it
It has a sliding ring reel holders


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Post 06 Jul 2020, 10:26 • #22 
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Here's a SP 621 that I built out from the yellow blank a couple of years ago. Unfortunately the blanks do not have the line and lure info, only the blank number. It's a great rod for float fishing an Ozark stream and I use it in Canada for smallmouth. I'd guess the line rating at 2-6 lb test. It's a real "noodle." Staying with the vintage theme, I paired it with a Garcia 308.

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Post 06 Jul 2020, 11:17 • #23 
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great outfit and nice photos


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Post 06 Jul 2020, 17:11 • #24 
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Baldknobber1 wrote:
Here's a SP 621 that I built out from the yellow blank a couple of years ago. Unfortunately the blanks do not have the line and lure info, only the blank number...

Nice rod build. From the 1976 Fenwick blank catalog:

Fenwick Gold Fiberglass Rod Blanks
    SP621, 5 feet long, fast action, ultra light power, lure weight 1/16-1/4 oz, blank weight 1-1/8 oz. The blanks were factory available with and without sleeve ferrules.

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I don’t know much about them but I have a Fenwick P329853, 140 4 1/2 footer. Those are the numbers on it. It has a sliding ring reel holders

Z

That rod is listed in the 1977 Fenwick rod catalog as an Ultra Light Action spinning rod. 4-1/2 feet long, weight 1-5/8 oz., for lures 1/16-1/4 oz., and lines 1-4 lb test. The rod came from the factory with the sliding rings and aluminum oxide line guides.

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Post 10 Jul 2020, 16:54 • #25 
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Thank you very much



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