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Post 06 Jul 2020, 08:31 • #1 
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hi all - my daughter's birthday is coming up and I'd like to build her a new fiberglass rod to start fly fishing with. I want to start with a new blank and then wrap the guides with her. shes' 8. she can handle my 7 1/2 foot glass 4 weight pretty well but its just a little too big for her. was hoping for something smaller. any suggestions? I really don't know a ton about newer glass. thanks all!


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Post 06 Jul 2020, 10:18 • #2 
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there are quite a few imports available for $100 or less. All depends on your budget. If she is comfortable with what she's using, maybe something similar would be a good choice.
What rod is she using?


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Post 06 Jul 2020, 11:33 • #3 
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PM sent.


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Post 06 Jul 2020, 11:46 • #4 
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she has only ever lawn cast, and its my 7' 6 old fiberglass 4 weight. she did well with it but i think the length might have been a bit too much for her. trying to see if there are any blanks out there in shorter sizes that people have experience with, and would recommend.

matt, thanks for the pm!


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Post 06 Jul 2020, 12:03 • #5 
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How about a tadpole. If you have room to transport a 1 piece 6' rod, you might build out a fly rod version of the Batson SPG 720 (you can get the blank from Utmost Enterprises for under $30). It is e-glass so, it will stand up to anything a kid can do to it, and handle flies, baits, and whatever you put on it. It casts a 5 or 6 weight fly line, big enough so a kid can get used to handling line. Just google "tadpole" here for all the information you will ever need.


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Post 06 Jul 2020, 12:08 • #6 
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As Picketpin suggested, Lots of shorter, lightweight blanks out there. Just jump on EBay and you’ll find them, many with colors an 8yr old might really like. Also, don’t forget an 8yr old is probably going to need a smaller diameter grip.


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Post 06 Jul 2020, 17:25 • #7 
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If you plan to build a rod, you can build on any blank. Like archfly, I recommend a tadpole build. The Batson SP blanks are inexpensive enough that you can buy a handful of them to build as fly rods or spin rods. Build a tadpole for each of you?

There are many examples of tadpole builds in the forum archives (this post and this post). These will be more of a tip action fly rod, so it doesn't take as long of an arm motion to cast. They cast with 5/6 weight lines, which are easier for a beginner to feel. The only downside is the 6 foot, 1 piece construction.


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Post 06 Jul 2020, 18:09 • #8 
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Here is another old discussion you might find helpful regarding a build done for my daughter on a 7ft Seeker spinning rod blank -

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6394&p=145748&hilit=mountainshark#p145748


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Post 09 Jul 2020, 11:00 • #9 
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https://rodbuilderswarehouse.com/produc ... 8678896775
$45 with free shipping for a Diamondback Meeker 7' 3wt.
I built out the 8043 and it makes a nice rod. I built it using some components from Matt (proofflyfishing) and he was a pleasure to deal with, so I'd take his PM into account above as well.
The tadpole suggestion is also fun. I stretched a spg780 to 6'10 and cast a 6wt with it. Tom makes a good point about the heavier line being easier for a beginner to feel.
I think she'll love whatever you make for her.
I look forward to hearing about the results!


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Post 11 Jul 2020, 08:25 • #10 
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At that age, she's going to be 4 inches taller in 2 years, and recognize anything you do is going to be a compromise. I love the idea of wrapping it with her.

I would look at a Proof 7' 3/4wt (Lantern) I haven't built on the new tip over blank, but the older blank was nice, but it was much more of a 4/5wt in my hands. Which is a good thing for what you want this rod for. Purchase the component kit or complete kit with it and you are are set. He has nice components and the kits are well done and complete.

I've never been a fan of shrinking rods for kids. I would consider a 7'6" 3wt graphite for this purpose. Graphite is just going to be lighter. A rainshadow Unity (or rx6) 763-2 makes a great rod at an affordable price. It can be overlined though works well as is. The 2 pc RX6's are nice, but the 4pc are a bit heavier and stiffer.
Think about what you want the rod to do. A 4/5wt will be good rod to learn on. A true 3wt is going to be hard to throw any decent sized fly.


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Post 05 Aug 2020, 15:58 • #11 
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You might have already chosen something, but I love the "Reed" model from Proof Fly Fishing. It's a 6' 2/3. The length does make the casting ability shorter, but it's super strong and been really fun for my fiance and I. I built us a "His and Her" set and we love them. In fact, I caught a 2lb bass on it just last week while going after panfish.


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Post 12 Aug 2020, 08:04 • #12 
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Hi all! As an update, I went with a Proof Vapor blank 7' 3/4 weight. I liked the idea that the Vapor is faster action, which should help her with her casting. The slower action rods she tested out were tougher for her to be accurate and cast. Plus, Matt @ Proof just rocks with his customer service. Easy buy.

here are some pics of the finished build. she helped me wrap some of it, and picked out the colors and all the hardware. black hardware with a pinkish / multicolor style stripping guide. I think it came out great! thanks all for the advice.



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Post 12 Aug 2020, 09:51 • #13 
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Nice job!


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Post 12 Aug 2020, 10:22 • #14 
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That's awesome!


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Post 12 Aug 2020, 14:18 • #15 
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Well done, and for the best of purposes. Your daughter will enjoy that one!


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Post 15 Aug 2020, 20:13 • #16 
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:like


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Post 17 Aug 2020, 03:10 • #17 
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Well done! Looks great.


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Post 17 Aug 2020, 15:44 • #18 
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Now we need a proud papa pic with a fish on that rod.


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Post 16 Sep 2020, 20:34 • #19 
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Excellent!


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