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Superfine Glass 8 weight
Post 24 Aug 2018, 23:31 • #1 
Sport
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Location: League City, TX
Before getting my hands on my rod (after multiple manufacturing delays) I could literally find no information online about the SFG 888-4 (yes, four piece). No reviews, photos, no Tom Rosenbauer talking about how awesome it is video, no IFTD coverage, nada. I thought that I would share my thoughts and observations on it, and would love to hear the opinion of others who cast it.

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First objective observations....

The first thing that I noticed when I picked it up at Orvis Houston is the tube was too short! This rod is in fact a four piece unlike all other SFG’s. There is no mention of this on Orvis’ website. This makes me happy as I like breaking rigged rods in half to stow in the boat or SUV ceiling when going from spot to spot. It will also fit in my standard travel case.

It is not too heavy for a glass 8wt at 4 1/2oz, and doesn’t feel like you’re swinging around a CB radio antenna. With my CFO V mounted the fulcrum point is 1/2” in front of the cork, so perceived weight immediately is decreased. I threw on a Hydros SL IV and it balances even better.

As you can see in the photo below blank diameter is not extremely different from that of the 6wt SFG, just the amount that you would expect in a two line weight increase. Handle length and diameter of handle components are identical. Where the 8wt varies greatly from the 6 is in the guides. The chrome Mildrum style strippers (there are two) are much larger than the one on the 6 as can be seen below. I can almost fit my pinky in the larger one. They appear proportional to the blank. Orvis chose to use a large loop tip.

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When I received my SFG 6wt there were craftsmanship and quality control issues. The label was applied directly to an unsanded blank (air under label), threads were not burnished, and the flex coat over the label was wavy with bubbles. Orvis fixed most of the issues, but it made me worry that their standards had decreased. This rod has proven to me that they have not. The flor grade cork is amazing. The only filler used is on little spots, not long flaws. The details of the build are meticulous. As a rod builder and craftsman myself I can find zero flaws.

Now the subjective.....

Other than weight, the action is different than other SFG’s. I consider the whole line to be fast glass, but the 8wt is less “full flex” than the lighter rods. I attached a Go Pro to the grip to look at flex. There is no flex visible during the cast until after the first stripper, and little until after the second when casting a 225 grain line with a bass popper. To me this translates into lifting power and line control when fighting a fish.

I was surprised and impressed with the distance that I could get out of it with a standard weight line. I was fishing around heavy weeds and had zero difficulty putting my popper exactly where I wanted it. Wind was at my back at 12mph and I had no difficulty getting the line speed needed to lay out my back cast even with the popper. Tomorrow morning I will be putting on a clouser minnow and heading to fish the beach. We will see how that goes, but so far I’m digging it!

Cheers! J


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Post 24 Aug 2018, 23:34 • #2 
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Keep up the reports. The casting the lighter rods in the series seems to show great potential in that taper for a big, powerful but still light 7-8 wt. The glass answer to the rods which graphite does pretty well.


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Post 25 Aug 2018, 18:16 • #3 
Sport
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Location: League City, TX
I had it out early this morning hoping to get a nice redfish on it, but no takers. Obviously 4 hours of nonstop blind casting is a bit more tiring with this outfit than with my Helios, but it’s not unbearable. The rod (with Rio Smallmouth 8wt) has more than enough power to throw a 1/0 Clouser. I have a SA Bonefish 8wt (15 grains lighter and less front heavy than the Rio) on another reel, so I’m going to put that on for comparison’s sake and try for some alligator gar around the lights in my harbor after sundown. Hope to test that lifting power! Ive seen 5 footers hanging around.


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Post 05 Sep 2020, 07:33 • #4 
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Still like the 8wt? I am considering one for chasing carp. Thanks.


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Post 07 Sep 2020, 19:59 • #5 
Sport
Joined: 08/11/20
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Location: Ontario, Canada
I’m also interested in any updates you might want to share. I love my 764 SFG and am currently in the 8/9wt market. Drop another line when you get a minute, let us know how you’re getting along with the rod. Cheers!


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Post 07 Sep 2020, 21:15 • #6 
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I have one for two years & like it. Not overly fast but way faster than most vintage rods. Big flies are no problem.


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Post 08 Sep 2020, 08:37 • #7 
Sport
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Location: Ontario, Canada
Cool, thanks for the insight John. If I can find one locally I might just grab it and see how it does on the salmon run this month.


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Post 08 Sep 2020, 12:24 • #8 
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What line do you prefer, John? Thanks!


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Post 08 Sep 2020, 21:58 • #9 
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SA Mastery distance WF8 but it will cast a SA Titan taper 8 too.


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Post 12 Sep 2020, 21:42 • #10 
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Thanks!


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Post 17 Sep 2020, 08:10 • #11 
Sport
Joined: 06/11/14
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I have the 7’ 3w model from the first run of them, and it has some of those same QC issues you brought up. Mine is most notably just not wrapped that well. Very visible gaps in the thread in several places. It makes me think Orvis kinda viewed these rods as an “experiment” at the beginning and didn’t invest a lot of time in them until they proved they would sell. I actually entertained the notion from looking mine over when it arrived, that the must have had an intern or new recruit wrapping these in the beginning.


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Post 22 Sep 2020, 08:23 • #12 
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Joined: 06/20/19
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Location: US-SW PA
Agreed. While I really enjoy the rod and it doesn't effect my fishing at all..... my 7'6" 4wt SFG has terrible wraps. I have considered stripping it and rebuilding it but that is a considerable project. I'll just fish it and chuckle to myself that Orvis let this one get out............

As to the 888.....I've cast it a few times and found it to thrive on being heavily loaded. IE, the "Big Nasty" tapers seem to suit it, at least in my hands.


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Post 25 Sep 2020, 20:17 • #13 
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Finally fished my 8wt superfine. Tried a few lines and finally settled on a 9 weight orvis warmwater bass taper. It really likes that heavier line.


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Post 29 Dec 2020, 10:10 • #14 
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Joined: 08/31/19
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Location: Bozeman, MT
When you say it's less "full flex", would you say it's faster and more of a moderate action?


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Post 18 Mar 2021, 14:06 • #15 
Sport
Joined: 06/05/20
Posts: 65
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
My initial superfine 888-4 cracked on the second outing where the 3 and 4 sections connect. After an unpleasant experience in the orvis store I called their customer service and they sent a new rod. I agree with you though. The build is near flawless and as good as I have ever seen. Love mine.


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