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Re: Scott F Series
Post 16 Nov 2018, 15:54 • #126 
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Ok,I got the rods today and I am no CarlZ or some of the other board members when it comes to casting so I will leave the tech. stuff out.Out of the box came 2 of the most beautiful Scott's I have seen.The color of the unsanded blanks,wraps are just stunning.They cleaned up the guide feet great no more black spots from the grinder.The 6'6"felt real close to my F2 and I was expecting the f to be slower.In close I liked the F2 a little better but they both cast nice out to 40'.The 5'8" was a surprise on par with my 6' Steffen and I like it much better than the old F2 6 footer.I hope to here some reviews from other board members........Aurelio
The only problem with the cap and ring handle on the 5'8" is my cfo 2 foot is a little wide but my austin Forbes fits ok.


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 17 Nov 2018, 00:18 • #127 
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that wait on the custom reel seat is a killer. In reality my wait was quite a bit longer than the 4 weeks they promised to boot, but worth it in the end. I am really glad to hear someone else making the f series plunge. I love my 5 piece and totally agree about how beautiful these rods are.


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 17 Nov 2018, 02:19 • #128 
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Your handle came stock on the old f2 7' and 6'6" ,I hate up lockers anyway it helps to take off the plastic my cfo 2 fits great now..........Aurelio


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 19 Nov 2018, 10:24 • #129 
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I got to fish the Scott 5'8" rod on our stream today to see what it could do.I started with a size 14 dry dropper rig and my leeder was about 8' 6" which was to much and went down to around 7'.In close with just a couple feet of fly line out it felt a little clunky but once I got some line out it was great beautiful loops out to 35' and would roll cast that distance with a little effort. I changed to a 16 elk hair caddis and about a 7' leeder the rod would roll cast 35' with a lot less effort.the rod is more progressive and a little faster than my 6' Steffen.I ended up having to make casts between 25 and 35' because the sun was at my back and I was casting a long shadow on gin clear water.
I ended up with 4 and the biggest was a 15'rio grande cutt and had no trouble getting him in and the rod was smooth while fighting the fish.I was surprise that 2 of the fish I landed were over 30' away when I set the hook most of the time I miss those because with a short rod I can't pick the line up fast enough.This is one sweet rod and will handle some hauls and packs down to a little less than 20".


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 19 Nov 2018, 14:53 • #130 
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Aurelio,

November 12th and you are fishing gin clear water. damn you!;)


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 19 Nov 2018, 15:14 • #131 
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Rich,had a couple of warm days that melted the ice........aurelio


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 20 Nov 2018, 05:14 • #132 
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You are making me want to take out the old black F 552 just for the challenge of it.

Found this video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOBZtEJ0wws

I'd normally be fishing at least a 7' rod on that type of creek - since we're talking Scott, the 704-5.


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 20 Nov 2018, 06:16 • #133 
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giogio,I wish you lived here in the USA so I could ship you the 5'8" and you could compare and do a review because you are a lot more tech.savy than me but I'm sure you would be impressed.......aurelio


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 20 Nov 2018, 10:09 • #134 
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Aurelio you are most definitely far more experienced with short rods than I am so you are the reference...

For me 7' is short and I'm used to leaders at least 8' to 9' long and I'm a bit lost going even shorter. Anything you can share on presentation and tactics with the short rod will certainly speed up my learning curve.


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 20 Nov 2018, 13:05 • #135 
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I find some rods like long leaders and some don't maybe it's in the design of the rod so when I find a short rod that will lay the fly line down without ripples and a 7' leeder I won't spook the fish and the little Scott did that and if it did'nt it was a bad cast on my part.I know timing has a lot to do with presentation but some rods are real naturals.I fish a lot of small brushy streams that are gin clear and a lot is sight casting fishing upstream and keeping just the leeder above the fish.the bottom line is If I can find a short rod that that can do everything a longer rod can do except for reach I will take the short rod.My Steffen and the Scott are great small brushy creek rods and I use a 3' furled leeder with 4' of tippet......Aurelio
I also think the reason why short rods are not loved because 30 to40 years ago there were no really good ones not like today and when you did find one like the 6'6"epoxite blank that orvis and Leonard used are the only ones that come close they for some reason don't feel as smooth while fighting fish IMO but are nice small stream rods.


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 04 Dec 2018, 21:10 • #136 
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It may have been a dream, but I could have sworn I read a separate thread review for the F series 4wt, which was then deleted. Not sure why if that was the case, but I thought it was great and inspired me to look more seriously into the line. I'll be casting the 2 and the 663 next week.


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 05 Dec 2018, 09:15 • #137 
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No dream
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=64412&p=335519#p335519


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 05 Dec 2018, 09:44 • #138 
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It was different! I hope I'm not imposing on the og poster, but I'm mainly mentioning it just in case it was removed from a self conscious place. It was good, touched on various points and provided as much reference as possible for his views.


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 05 Dec 2018, 11:29 • #139 
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I am looking into the 724. I have a glass C. Barclay 68 Synthesis, F Series 583 and also a graphite 3 weight. Four 3 weights to me right now would be overkill as I use them but not frequently. The 4 weight would get plenty of use tho as I use 4 weights mainly throughout the year.


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 11 Dec 2018, 01:26 • #140 
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Just ordered the Scott F Series 724-4 - any views about what line might suit, mostly dries up to small hoppers.


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 12 Dec 2018, 13:30 • #141 
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Bill_M wrote:
Just ordered the Scott F Series 724-4 - any views about what line might suit, mostly dries up to small hoppers.

I've cast that with various lines and liked it best with a SA Mastery Trout. That line comes only in a WF, and so if you prefer DTs then the Mastery Double Taper should functionally be the same line (at least for what I view as normal casting distances if grabbing a short 4 wt).


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 13 Dec 2018, 11:51 • #142 
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Alright, got to cast the the 653 and the 622 today.

622: I don't have any experience with 2wts, tbh, and I only had a DT 3 for it, so take these opinions with a grain of salt. It was unbelievably smooth and light. An absolute pleasure around 15-20 ft. At $695 and being a specialist tool I can't justify it in my arsenal, especially because I don't really fish places where the trophy is 10 inches. All the small water I fish has the potential for a 14"+ wild brown, and there's no way I could turn those with this rod, which isn't a fault because it probably wouldn't be an intended setting for it. However, I will buy one of these used for sure at some point.

653: This rod was exactly what I hoped it would be. My closest reference would be my 703 F2, which I love. Compared to that it's lighter (not by much) and WAY more stable. The grip is overkill for sure, especially because the classic slide band grip allows you to hold it a bit lower, which appeals to me. However, it packs down small as a 4 and doesn't appear to sacrifice anything for it. Given that aspect of it this may be one of the most versatile small stream rods I've come across yet, so I picked it up.

What's interesting to me about the progression of the F series in terms of its stability is that its application in this case is perfect. I think they used similar technology or approach with the new G Series, which may have been a mistake from my limited time with those rods. My complaint for them is that they're too fast for a moderate rod [most likely] due to how they stabilized the tips. Those rods cannot be overpowered, but once you're in rhythm with them they're real fast because of it. If I'm right the F series is the perfect marriage for this direction of stability and a total home run.


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 13 Dec 2018, 12:51 • #143 
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David,I felt the F2 653 was the most versatile small stream rod ever.I did order a new F 653/4 but with a custom handle cap and ring.Thanks for the review of the 2WT. Do you find that your 7' F2 loads in close or has a slightly softer tip than your new F series?.........thanks Aurelio


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 13 Dec 2018, 12:56 • #144 
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I think the F2 703 has a softer tip and may load a bit better in close, but I should cast them together to really determine that.

I also cast both these rods as it was snowing at 32 degrees, so they may feel more supple in warmer weather. I know my line was feeling the weather.

The 2 really stood out, gotta say. Wish I cast it with a 2 line.


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 13 Dec 2018, 13:23 • #145 
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David ,thanks that's what I felt about the F2 653 when casting side by side with the new F.I felt the F2 was a little sweeter in close cause of the softer tip but the new F seemed to track a little better and may be a hair more accurate and I like the fact that it packs down smaller can't Waite to get mine and fish it to see if there is any difference on the water.I am sure you will really enjoy your new rod.........Aurelio


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 13 Dec 2018, 18:26 • #146 
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Thanks, Aurelio. I've always appreciated your enthusiasm for the 653 F2. There are so many rods out there these days, it's fun when you find a few with a cult following that actually deliver on the hype.


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 18 Dec 2018, 16:11 • #147 
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Thanks David, I had it on my lawn this arvo with a Airflo Elite WF4F and will run a few different lines over it before I settle on one. I have a SA Amplitude Trout on the the way and hear very good things about the VPT, which I have fished on a G2 803 (I think) which was very sweet. I need a combination of lines for some traditional dry fly (trout) and some not-so traditional tropical freshwater (I live in Far North Australia) which is a combo of bigger dries and some wets and small streamers. The 724 feels very sweet to me - much less tip bounce than I expected and great recovery for glass. And much less flashy and lairy in person, really a lovely little rod.


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 18 Dec 2018, 17:38 • #148 
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I cant wait to cast the 4wt.

After casting mine a bit more I feel badly for speaking poorly about the grip. Maybe we get a little spoiled around these parts with Kenney, Leiderman, Barclay, etc and their mindful grips, both in length and shape. The grip on the F series is really nice with respect to shape and thinness. It bends so deeply that it may even be helpful that it's a touch oversized.

I think this series is a real winner.


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 01 Jan 2019, 02:12 • #149 
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Cast the F Series 724-4 with Rio Gold (WF4f), Airflo Elite (WF4F) and SA Mastery Trout (DT4F). Each worked fine and I think the Airflo will work best with bigger dries. The SA loaded it OK but felt udnerwhelming for some reason. It might be OK for smaller dries but didn't feel like it tapped into the accuracy of the rod. The 724-4 tip feels very accurate to me, for a glass rod any. The Gold felt pretty good, not dissimilar to the Elite. I am going to try the Amplitude Trout and the VPT on it yet.


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Re: Scott F Series
Post 02 Jan 2019, 10:21 • #150 
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I ordered the 724 today. I am intrigued by this rod in the series. I have a Barclay 68 Synthesis and cannot see the need for another 3 weight in a similar length. Going to pair with an Abel TR Series 4/5 in the standard gloss black and try InTouch Gold on it first.


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