Not my hill to die on but ..
Bill Phillipson was the King of using 7wt butt sections mated with 6wt tip sections to create his DFS rods
Goes back to his bamboo days .
Not many Eponite 7.6 rods out here but the few I’ve been able to mic .. the tips seem to be the same between DFS and STD .
Eponites by their taper philosophy don’t ramp a whole bunch they stay elongated In the mid section so it wasn’t hard for a genius like Bill Phillipson to match it to an appropriate butt section from a larger rod blank to achieve the desired action he was looking for.
Have you have or ever cast or fished any other 7.6 Eponite non DFS rods?
Would dig to hear your comparo ?
Dr Bulldog ,
Respect the Heck out of you man .
Still believe you are misremembering your rod
Here is a link from the classic rod forum where you emphatically state your Expert was made pre Johnson sale ..http://classicflyrodforum.com/forum/vie ... 4&start=20
I can understand why you think that rod feels like a Scotchply rod .
Those last std glass rods with the epoxy resin are no joke !!!!
Back in the early days of FFr Flyfishingforgoldentrout mistook the late Std glass/epoxy resin Mylar Master rods for Eponite.
But he was correct In saying the Yellow Master rods were in fact Eponite .
I already answered/confirmed both to my satisfaction
The infamous locked post …viewtopic.php?f=3&t=74022&hilit=Mylar+Master
Wish Richard was around for this ..
Bulldog your theory goes the other end of the rod timeline saying it’s a Scotchply rod
I have described the late std glass rods with epoxy resin as a cross between an Eponite and a Scotchply rod to anyone who will listen ..
I don’t have a catalog with an Expert
But my 1961 catalog has the Classic and the Mylar Master
which you can see in the locked post ..
Your Expert and My Expert share the Exact same wraps red/fuchsia Mylar with black spiral wraps at the cork check and signature wrap followed up with plain black wraps on the rest of the rod ,same hardware and no keeper
Your rod should have 8 total guides…can’t tell by your pic.
Same funky half wells grip , same winding check , same reel seat mines just two tone ..
Your e80 reel seat is a std gen2 phillipson reel seat …
The gen2 std seats went to pocketed butt cap but carried over the “round” slide ring of the Gen 1 std reel seat viewtopic.php?f=3&t=74093
Your E80’s reel seat looks like it has the early style round slide ring .
The later pocketed slide rings come on late 60s green masters /early 70s rods
BTW the LL bean reel seat you posted is not the same as your expert rod .
Your LL has a completely different butt cap
Looks like a no rock butt cap since its round,has double knurling on it and is not pocketed .
The 1961 “Classic” series rods got the same treatment as the Expert rods just different color way
Green Mylar with jade spiral wraps at check and signature wrap , then plain jade green wraps on rest of rod ,same 8 total guides two/tone gen2 std reel seat .same funky half wells grip
Mylar Masters were the upgraded Std Glass model in 1961
got gold Mylar on all the wraps , plus 1 extra guide for 9 total guides , and a hookeeper . 2 tone gen2 std reel seat , same funky half wells grip
Another dead giveaway is the label
Your rods and the 1961 rods label are exactly the same style
Note that your expert , my expert , my (3)Mylar masters, and my Classic series all share a very unique label that is exactly the same..
First they all have silk line ratings with NO AFTMA numerical line weight designation .
Second they have No rod weight in OZ’s.
All their rod labels say
made in USA first ,then model, then silk line rating
These rods in question are the ONLY Phillipson rods I’ve found to feature this style label …
The grips are all the same funky half wells grip .
The only other Phillipson glass rod I know to feature this style grip is some of the later green masters and some rods that were built by Ricks .
The Experts may have been an un cataloged pet project of bills .. but
I’d bet any rod in my 105 Phillipson Arsenal you’d like …
Up against your e80 that it’s not a Scotchply rod !
Pretty easy to find out ..
Let’s do this !! Lol hope your not mad at me that we disagree on this one ..
(Don’t try this at home kiddies)
Got your Pm
put your info in my mobile ,
Expect a call today or tomorrow.
Tight lines to all