That Horseshoe still seems to be firmly lodged up my backside ..

Earlier this summer member AngryViking and Myself purchased a few Phillipson rods on eBay from Mr Bob and Miss Arlene.
Before I ever got a chance to ask Miss Arlene if Mr Bob had any other Phillipson rods , AngryViking already had made contact and confirmed there was more rolled gold in the closet .

We decided to join forces and help our buying power along with saving on shipping .
When the dust settled I walked away with a cool Dozen Phillies and G-man scored 3 absolutely beautiful unicorns for his quiver .
There was a small issue or two on a couple of my rods.

So Mr Bob sent me some used and NOS Phillipson Hardware along with a partial redund to square me up.
Here’s a few reel seats ,cone hossels ,lock nuts and cork checks he sent ..

We thought everything had been unearthed but Miss Arlene said Mr Bob found 4 blanks and more hardware a few weeks ago .
AngryViking birdogged the eBay listing early in the Am and sent a message to let Miss Arlene know we were interested in buying all that was left .
I set the asking offer between us but let AngryViking close the deal with Miss Arlene.
The listing was promptly pulled from EBay and express shipped to my house for inspection…

We ended up with 2 8ft scotchply blanks
And 2 scotch blanks that measure 8.75 ..
Not sure if they would have been trimmed down to make 8.6ft rods since Bill never made a 8.75 rod .
The blanks are the brown color that the early Scotchply kit rods were painted..

The 8.75 rods are a smidge bit different brown tone than the 8ft blanks are


The rods came with ferrule sleeves but only one of the 8ft ferrule will work .
The other is too big of a diam .
The 8.75 ferrules I believe could be made to work.
Note yellow Orvis Fullflex color on ferrule sleeves

I had told G-man that the ferrules/fittment would be a coin flip going in so no biggie that they don’t match up.
I put a kit together made up from an 8ft base and tip section that was the softer actioned of the 2 but more linear taper and the glass ferrule that should work so Gman can get a rod built for his Daughter .
Set it up with Copper/bronze “premium” no-rock reel seat with silver trim , Copper/bronze cone hossel , chrome stripper guide,double spiral guide, chrome tip top , 8 snakes so he could potentially build it out with 11 total guides.

While discussing the 8.75 blanks I casually mentioned that the tip is 4ft 4inches long same size as an Abercrombie Banty Rod .
I said , One Piece Banty ??
Gman says YES!!!
Well it looks like their fate is sealed..
I picked him out a cone hossel small enough to fit the tip section and another premium no-rock reel seat
Gman wants to build his out like the late green G-Mf masters or the 3m master rods .
Chrome stripper ,hookeeper ,and tip top but with black snake guides (the only Phillipson glass rods to use black snakes)

Went with a slightly larger/taller stripper guide



Im thinking of doing my Banty with the gold Premium no rock seat and copper/bronze cone
Then build it out like a Royal ..
Gold stripper , Gold tip top , silver guides.
I’m struggling to decide wrap colors I’ve got a spool of that belding henna thread
Was thinking of the brown henna wrap then spiral tipped in turf tan ?
Or was thinking maybe a copper wrap spiral tipped in black ?
What say you all???
Would Love to hear some suggestions!!
For my 8ft project rod I was thinking Deluxe style wraps like on Mr Bob’s custom built out rod.

Now if I could just find someone who could make a spigot ferrule for me ??
I’ve definitely got some parts to have it built out

Some non Phillipson bonus rod porn parts I scored from Mr Bob
I really need to take a rod building class stat!
Anybody need a coarse thread lock nut just ask .. I’ve got plenty to spare
Chers to all you Phillipson fools out here
Scotto

Wow, that is a serious score. I think you will be very very happy with the rods that you build-out. Where does one get a similar horseshoe???!!!!

Congratulations to you both - I am sure there was a lot of legwork involved.

cool project!

I built an NOS Orvis Golden Eagle “kit” back in 2012-ish and was a fun project and a very good fly rod.

if you are serious about getting some spigots made and installed, Fred Paddock is a builder that comes to mind with the skills and know-how. He cut and ferruled a NOS Fenwick blank for me once - and did it “in the field”. We were at Summerfest in the Catskills, and he brought a few tools and adhesives with him, and did it sitting on the lawn. I was both amazed and appreciative.

Very cool. I am interested in seeing how you make out. I’m in a similar situation where I accumulated about a dozen Phillipsons that were partially factory built to various degrees. I also have a few blanks. The challenge with the partially finished rods is matching new thread to the existing thread. Some were varnished, some not, some have one coat, others more etc. then add about 45 years of age. One thing I’ve learned is that the paint they used as an underlay for the spiral wraps is actually a very flat white. It turns yellow/gold when varnished. Awesome score Man, good luck with your project.
Cheers
Chad

Thanks for all the love on this post .
Hoping to get my custom rods built out this winter .

Rumor has it that the Fools have found some more rolled gold …

Be like a piano .. and stay tuned !
Scotto

Corlay ,
While as a rule I whole heartily agree with your assessment about the Banty project.

But this is a Phillipson Scotchply tip we’re talking about .
Which makes it the exception
Because as we all know Phillipson’s are exceptional..

Something tells me we’ll get better performance from the Phillipson one piece Banty than this Fly Atom by New Ideal .






Here’s another nugget of rolled gold the fools got their hands on ..
Unlabeled/Unbuilt 7ft Glass Ferruled Scotchply blank

It’s either a Royal Wand , a 3m Swamp Fox , 3m C702 , or possibly an early epoxite rod.
I need to weigh the blank to verify ..

Shout out to to Russ at Frazier Mountain fly rods and AngryViking for making this deal happen .

He’s also a proud new owner of one of these 7ft blank canvas beauties .

I’m struggling choosing between the old style no rock seat or the later version ..

Decisions .. Decisions

Scotto,
Did you finish any of these rods?
And has your wife cracked down yet?

They look marvelous, but not quite fishable yet.

I once made a piece broom handle into a reel seat/grip drilled to accept the male ferrule of a 9'/9wt and used that top half as a short rod on tight little brooks for a year or three. It worked for what I wanted but it was still a 9wt. I used the same line and leader that I used with the whole rod. having had that experience I'd not build a banty on half a fly rod.

Oh Ye of little faith …


If you guys thought I haven’t done any advance scouting on this project …

You’d be wrong

I’ve been looking to do a tip section banty for years .
Since y’all are from Missouri apparently..
Figured I’d just show you …

So I took my 8.5ft 3m Swamp Fox tip section Fishing for the evening.
Even with a taped on reel that’s too heavy,
A wf6 line and a snake guide that was digging into my hand when casting .
Still worked as good as my Abercrombie Banty that’s tuned with a great reel and line ..

R&D really puts a smile on my face ..

CarlZ .. the rods are still unbuilt as you know how picky I can be with guides wraps and grip style .. my rod builder closed his shop so I’m on the hunt to have them built out .

The 8ft rod I want to have built with a spigot ferrule .. no one locally will touch it ..
Funny you mention my wife
She hasn’t cracked just yet ..
But I sense an intervention on the horizon..
The heat pump/ac needs to be replaced this summer .

So I’ve been kicking it down a notch this month .

Trev, sounds like a cool lil broomstick bass banty . I know some tight spots that hold big Bass that maybe a 9wt tip would be just the ticket ..

Tom, ok so i sand bagged it comparing to a fly atom .

I’ll string up my Abercrombie Banty for a more in depth assessment.
Once I find that system 4 reel that hiding in the Dungeon.

And just for Hersh I’m gonna fix the bent snake on the fly atom and give it the college try..
Bantys after Breakfast Lets Go!!

Nicely done Scotto!