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Post 12 Jun 2022, 19:19 • #1 
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Hello fellow fiberglass followers.

I am starting to dabble in some collecting of my first vintage glass rods. I was lucky to get this really nice Wonderod for a first start, with a friends guidance.

I am wanting some help with knowledge on picking one Pflueger that would be vintage American to start with. Which one would you choose? I am wanting something to keep and appreciate but also be usable. I love vintage patina, and I am a click pawl lover as well.

Any help would be appreciated.


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Post 12 Jun 2022, 19:34 • #2 
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What weight line. A 1492.5 or 1494 would be great for a 5wt.

For a 7 wf, a 1495. And you can go up from there.

Is there a 3 letter date code? It would start with an E or F


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Post 12 Jun 2022, 19:42 • #3 
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Seems to be a Presidential 3-5 wt from my understanding, the code seems to be not legible, but it came from a trusted individual. And its 6'. I have been told by another friend it cast best with a DT 4wt line. Thank you. I saw what seemed to be a 1494 that seemed interesting. I will look up that pic.


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Post 12 Jun 2022, 21:06 • #4 
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The 1492 is click pawl, but I prefer the 1494.


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Post 12 Jun 2022, 21:18 • #5 
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Thanks, after looking at a couple pages, I think its a 1492 or 1494 with a round line gaurd possibly.


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Post 12 Jun 2022, 23:02 • #6 
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Chris Miller wrote:
Seems to be a Presidential 3-5 wt from my understanding, the code seems to be not legible, but it came from a trusted individual. And its 6'. I have been told by another friend it cast best with a DT 4wt line. Thank you. I saw what seemed to be a 1494 that seemed interesting. I will look up that pic.

The Presidential rods were made in the 60s (for details, look through the the Shakespeare catalog thread - many thanks to Wrong 88 for compiling the images). Depending on the catalog, they were listed as 5 or 6 weight rods. Start with a five weight line, then adjust from there.

The rod is how long?


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Post 12 Jun 2022, 23:21 • #7 
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I have a 7’ Presidential. And a bunch of Medalists. But they were too heavy for the rod, and I’ll bet too heavy for yours. What worked for my rod was a Bronson 370 Royalist and a DT5. It balances right under my hand. Nice clicker sound as well.


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Post 13 Jun 2022, 08:51 • #8 
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Well if it is a DT 5 on Pflueger gonna have to be a 1494 … don’t the AKs way a little less than the Diamolites?


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Post 13 Jun 2022, 09:03 • #9 
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1494. The 1492 is small enough it's annoying in my hands, never enjoyed fishing one. Didn't like the clicker either.


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Post 13 Jun 2022, 09:47 • #10 
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1494, '60s Arkon O, tradermark medallion, if you want to be period authentic, but one from the period of Shakespeare ownership on would be fine as well. That rod has a long--relative to the reel mounting point--grip without a distinct point to confine the hand position. Thus, your hand will find an ideal point for the weight distribution you want. You won't even have to think about it. Put on the 1494. Cast and fish the rod a few minutes, including routine line handling such as mending line, stripping, and reeling up. Before you know it, your hand will be perfectly placed.

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Post 13 Jun 2022, 18:38 • #11 
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Wow, Tom, thank you so much. That is the coolest info. Seeing those catalogs. So with new measurements, mine is a 7'3", seems to be a 1290 Featherlight Super Deluxe. I matched the label and length and it seems to be a 1957. Thank you all this is so cool to match out of that information. That made my day!!!

Soooo.....Now that I have the real length, what is everyones thoughts. After an overnight of some studying, I seem to like the all metal 6 rivet with a round line gaurd versions of a Pflueger. However, I am open to other really vintage, special, semi affordable options as well.

Thank you all.

Chris


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Post 13 Jun 2022, 18:58 • #12 
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I convert my 1494's to left hand wind (LHW), perhaps sacrilegiously, because that is what I'm used to.

Experts please correct me if I'm wrong, but the 1492 is right hand wind (RHW) only. Something to consider if it matters to you.


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Post 13 Jun 2022, 19:09 • #13 
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Thank you, I am either hand for reeling, however, relaxed with right hand wind most.


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Post 13 Jun 2022, 20:48 • #14 
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Chris Miller wrote:
I matched the label and length and it seems to be a 1957

Look closely on the reelseat and you might find a three letter code, such as FDC. Check the Shakespeare Wiki page and you will find the code explanation so you can pin down the manufacturing date.


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Post 13 Jun 2022, 21:47 • #15 
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I vote 1494


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Post 14 Jun 2022, 07:22 • #16 
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Do not forget the Hardy clones as they are light durable and come in several color schemes.The eagle claw versions in dark brown with bronze spools look good on my Fly Fox and BrowningSilaflex rods .Also would look good on the brownish wrapped wonderod.Mine are maroon or light gray wrapped so a black reel is all I have.


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Post 14 Jun 2022, 20:24 • #17 
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I would suggest a 1494 as well. I have an 848 Presidential, which is only a tenth of an ounce heavier than yours, and the 1494 fits it well. You could probably use a 1492 too. The rod would most likely take a 4 or 5 weight line.


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Post 15 Jun 2022, 06:18 • #18 
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I have the same rod - 7’3”, No.1290. Mine is Model FKH, indicating it was built in March 1951 ( at least that’s how I interpret the code). Reels I own and which fit the 1290 reel seat are: Pflueger Medalist, Gem, and Progress, Shakespeare Russel, HI Mohawk, Ocean City 35, Montgomery Ward Sport King 150, Martin 63 and 65.

I fish this rod with an Orvis Green Mountain I (aka Martin 67SS) with a DT6F, which seems just right as for outfit balance and casting action.

Someone else mentioned the Japanese built Hardy clones. I have a Daisy Heddon 340 (Japan), but the reel foot does not fit this rod.



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Post 15 Jun 2022, 07:09 • #19 
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A Phlueger Gem 2094 may work for that rod as well.


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Post 15 Jun 2022, 10:54 • #20 
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Static balance is subjective and an unnecessary pursuit in the opinion of many, however if it matters, IMHO a 1494 at around 5.5 oz. is bit heavy for a 7'3" rod and I have a feeling a 1494 with a round line guard may be a tad heavier.


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Post 15 Jun 2022, 12:24 • #21 
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I like the gem suggestion. I fish my gems a fair amount. They look sweet and the click is great.


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Post 16 Jun 2022, 17:17 • #22 
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hey Chris - put that anti reverse Pate Trout on there just for funsies

The Pflueger Gem is one of the most under rated reels of all.
It might just balance the rod perfectly - and for less $.


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Post 16 Jun 2022, 22:49 • #23 
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Hilarious Brian, way over weight, lol.

Thanks everyone, I am trying several of these suggestions, it balances well with the Lightweight Hardy, but I fell in love with that super vintage Pflueger look to add to the collection. I am starting to realize, the really good patina reels are much more $$, so patience.

Also, this led to the most cool discovery of the One Pfoot upgrades, so cool the way they can be modded out.

However, I will keep trying and still look towards an original all metal Pflueger vintage something.

Thanks to everyone for the great new suggestions to search!


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Post 23 Jun 2022, 16:53 • #24 
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The 1492 is built for right hand only. I did have a machinist friend who drilled holes for the line guard on the other side of the reel which lets me use it as left-hand wind, but the drag will not flip around as it does on other reels. My recommendation on a 6 ft Shakespeare would be a Martin MG-3 reel. But, a 1494 was very common in earlier days. I still have mine from the mid-60s.


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Post 25 Jun 2022, 10:36 • #25 
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I like 1494 Medalist on 5-6 weight fiberglass.

1494 and up aren't click and pawl reels if that matters to you. They use a shoe type drag that doesn't have a lot of stopping power. More of a line overrun type deal.


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