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Post 19 Dec 2021, 19:41 • #1 
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What would be the line suggestions for this rod? I sold it to another member before I had a chance to try a bunch of lines on it and he would certainly appreciate recommendations from folks that have experience with 6 1/2' Phillipsons.

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Barry


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Post 22 Dec 2021, 18:41 • #2 
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Anybody ever try a Wulff long belly 6WT on a G-MF66? Looking to use mine for bushy, covered creeks primarily roll casting.


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Post 22 Dec 2021, 19:06 • #3 
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I have a custom wrap Phillipson with RF66C on the metal cap... 6'6" that says on the butt section :"made in 1974, for 5 or 6 wt flyline," but I generally fish a 4wt floating with it. It is pretty "fast" for a glass rod, so I am sure it could throw a 5 or even a 6wt. Don't know how it compares to the G-MF66, but it cannot be too different. The Rio 4wt, no longer made, is a supple spring creek type line, though a more aggressive, short headed line would load up quicker.

I too fish smaller, brushy creeks with this rod.

The original owner, for whom it was built, fished spring creeks in the Buffalo, NY area and Catskill streams and stated it fished streamers quite well on the spring creeks. He has since passed away, and I have only fished very small, brushy freestones so have not had to cast very far.


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Post 22 Dec 2021, 19:51 • #4 
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Line weight might also depend on size flies your wanting to cast.


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Post 22 Dec 2021, 22:56 • #5 
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I would fish a WF-5F, though never had a problem fishing a BS-100 (100 gr) shooting head on mine.
Quite the contrary, it roll-cast and shot it like the perfect match.

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Post 23 Dec 2021, 09:38 • #6 
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BS-100? Is that a Teeny line? Is it still in production?


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Post 23 Dec 2021, 09:50 • #7 
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unfortunately, no longer in production - it's the same grain/length sinking head as T-130, but 20' instead of 24'
Really desirable line for my limestone creek endemic bass.


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Post 23 Dec 2021, 10:07 • #8 
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Since the Teeny BS-100 is no longer in production, I’ve substituted these lines instead.

Not exactly the same, but has been the closest commercially available substitute I have found so far.



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Post 23 Dec 2021, 16:43 • #9 
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Ok thanks I’ll take a look at these and the Teeny Phantom Tip looks interesting also.


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Post 25 Dec 2021, 16:24 • #10 
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Bulldog,

Does the same grain/length mean you can just trim a TS130 to get a BS100? (or at least close?)


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Post 05 Jan 2022, 10:08 • #11 
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just saw this Carl,
Yes, the BS line is just a shorter T130 - 4' cropped off the head, and 20' cropped off the running line.
Otherwise, same grain/length head.

The difference between a tip and a Teeny line - extreme and very simple, though many don't register.
a tip is a WF floating line with a floating belly and a sinking hinge added to the tip.
A Teeny line is a spliced shooting head - it roll casts and shoots better than any other line you've ever tried.
It's the straightest possible vector from rod tip to hook point. .
The line diameter is smaller than a G braid, and it only takes up 1/8" on a reel spool.


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Post 05 Jan 2022, 20:43 • #12 
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Is the density of the teeny head constant or variable over the whole head? There are newer lines that are density compensated so the tip sinks faster than the middle section of the head which sinks faster than the part near the running line. They take a bit of getting used to.

The Teeny specifications say it is a 4ips sink rate. That's a nice rate for a lot of river fishing.

I think I have a T250 (it came spooled on a gunnison reel I bought) but it sinks like a rock. I hooked up with a decent smallmouth and my rod tip was still facing down when the fish jumped. The next cast I got tangled in the rocks and was lucky to save my line.


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Post 23 Jan 2022, 09:35 • #13 
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I've fished these lines 35 years, and catch-up hype doesn't catch up to them.
They are the straightest vector from rod tip to hook point. (worth repeating)
Just about every warmwater fish you've seen me post (and many coldwater fish) were caught on Teeny T130 or BS100.
I fish these lines from riffle water to 15-s countdown in still water.
I've caught suspended snapper on TS350, mackerel on TS250.

down-and across wet fly swing into a deep tailout
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rhetorical - why would you take a line made for near offshore mackerel and jacks after river smallies


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