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Post 08 Apr 2021, 06:52 • #1 
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Hello,

Although I have a few short rods, including a modern lo-fli 4 piece 6’6”, which is excellent, I want to find a few vintage short rods while they are still available.

I know about the 6 and 7 foot fenwick rods. I am interested in rods that cast 5 wt and 6 wt lines.

Thank you


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Post 08 Apr 2021, 08:12 • #2 
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If you find Phillipson rods 7' and under, you're apt to sell your Fenwicks.
Berkley/Gowdy 6'3" Para/metric is a pocket rocket.
St. Croix Imperial 7090, 6'8" is light and crisp with a 4- or 5-wt.


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Post 08 Apr 2021, 08:31 • #3 
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I couple of favorites:
Heddon Pal model 8381
Wonderod Model FY-910 UL-----922-----929

New and cheap: Eagle Claw Featherlite 6'6" or 7'


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Post 08 Apr 2021, 09:39 • #4 
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Cortland FR2000 6'6" 5/6 weight
H-I Model 12100 Queen Elizabeth 6'9" 3-5 weight

Larry


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Post 08 Apr 2021, 10:37 • #5 
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The earlier Scott and Winston rods are the cream of the crop, not cheap, but worth every penny, and as good or better than anything made today.


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Post 08 Apr 2021, 11:15 • #6 
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You can go to the WIKI and look at each manufacturer's page there, some pages are better than others, but it is a starting place- https://wiki.fiberglassflyrodders.com/wiki/Main_Page


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Post 08 Apr 2021, 12:44 • #7 
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To add: The Garcia 7'0" #6 "5-star", and the "Lee Wulff" model 7'-0" #6 are both excellent. (both with metal male spigot ferrules, and "quadrate" cork grips...)


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Post 09 Apr 2021, 08:26 • #8 
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Early Winston is one. The other may be Walt Carpenter. The true and original Silaflex as well.


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Post 10 Apr 2021, 19:48 • #9 
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I had the Herter's-branded 6'8" rod and it was a lot closer to a six weight than a four weight for sure. Really a great, little rod, but I had no use for a short six weight. It is ridiculously light for a six weight!


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Post 10 Apr 2021, 22:31 • #10 
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Shakespeare made the “Panfish Special” in 6’6” and 7’ lengths with the number 1245 and 922. They are 6 wts. The FY-910UL was also made in the same two lengths. They are 5 wts and all of these are fine rods.


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Post 11 Apr 2021, 16:52 • #11 
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I agree with all the above,i will add Browning Silaflex,i have the 6' 5wt.With a 6wt wf line it loads short and rollcasts as well as my phillipsons.Great pond and creek rod.Can cast nice and low under the canopy.


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Post 12 Apr 2021, 21:01 • #12 
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I have a 7’ 5/6wt LLBean pack rod ca. late 1980’s - made for Bean by Timberline Rod Co from a Lamiglas blank. It’s great. Recommend those from either Bean or Timberline.


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Post 13 Apr 2021, 11:51 • #13 
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The 2636-A model Garcia Conolon is 7'3" and although rated as a 5wt, is almost a 4, certainly not a 6. Be carefully though, as some of the 2636 models with other alpha suffixes are totally different heavier action rods. I think the 2636 with no alpha suffix is similar to the "-A" but I'm not 100% sure.


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Post 13 Apr 2021, 12:10 • #14 
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If you can find a Fibalite or Fibatube they are great vintage 5wts.


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Post 13 Apr 2021, 12:35 • #15 
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Vince Cummings 7' 5wt River Rat is certainly worthy.


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Post 13 Apr 2021, 17:04 • #16 
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The Berkley Stream Specialist 6’3” 4 wt, and the 7’ 5 wt are great rods. In a lesser category there is. 6’6” Wonderod.


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Post 14 Apr 2021, 01:40 • #17 
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I second the 6'6" and 7' Cortland FR-2000s!


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Post 14 Apr 2021, 11:30 • #18 
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And I have a six foot, 5 weight 3 piece Sceptre, only one I’ve ever seen. Amazing rod, great for small streams that may hold big fish.


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Post 22 Apr 2021, 12:10 • #19 
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6’6” Phillipson midge,Orvis Golden Eagle, Leonard all 4wts. All made on Phillipson’s epoxite blank.......Aurelio


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Post 22 Apr 2021, 15:15 • #20 
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In midweight lines, the Conolons are one of the progenitors of the type in fiberglass, championed by Lee Wulff and Charlie Ritz, quite a promo team. I can't say if they have high collector value, but if nothing else, they are from a time that might be interesting to read up on. Here is a thread that came up with a haphazard search; there are many more to turn up; some will be more focused on the short rods. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=64914&hilit=Wulff+Conolon


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Post 22 Apr 2021, 19:51 • #21 
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+1 on Golden Eagle 6’6”. Spigot ferrule phillipson 6’6” as well.


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Post 23 Apr 2021, 09:24 • #22 
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even the metal ferrule Phillipsons in that size are a joy.


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Post 23 Apr 2021, 14:45 • #23 
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Shakespeare Panfish Special.


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Post 23 Apr 2021, 20:38 • #24 
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The phillipson arrived today and is a great rod. The Martin tuna can will be attached for some casting tomorrow.


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Post 24 Apr 2021, 09:08 • #25 
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There is a short vintage ‘glass fly rod that I’ve been on the lookout for some time now, but it never seems to come up anywhere.

When I first got really interested in fly fishing was around 1970, and there was a small trout stream right across the road from our house, after walking a couple hundred yards through the woods and a pasture. So the rod I bought for it, which was probably the first one I ever purchased, was a brown Garcia 6 ½ footer for a five-weight. If memory serves me correctly it still had metal ferrules. Does that seem familiar to anyone?


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