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Newest toy: St. Croix
Post 26 Mar 2020, 15:06 • #1 
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I have acquired a few rods this winter. Most have been of higher quality (more expensive) than this one, but I am just as excited about this for some reason. It's in great shape, and even came with an original aluminum tube, which I was not expecting.







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Post 26 Mar 2020, 15:50 • #2 
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that's the one - enjoy


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Post 26 Mar 2020, 19:21 • #3 
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Really enjoyed seeing your new vintage fly rod. Like the color combination shown on your fly rod. My winter find is similar as shown below with different color wraps.



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Post 26 Mar 2020, 19:52 • #4 
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Of the St. Croix's I've seen that is the model I find most appealing. A friend has one, and while it may be rated as a 5 weight, it will cast a 3 or 4 also.

Larry


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Post 26 Mar 2020, 19:59 • #5 
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The only St. Croix I have, a great little rod.


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Post 26 Mar 2020, 21:05 • #6 
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Grouse wrote:
Really enjoyed seeing your new vintage fly rod. Like the color combination shown on your fly rod. My winter find is similar as shown below with different color wraps.




Is yours rated as a 4wt, as well?


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Post 26 Mar 2020, 21:39 • #7 
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Very nice, love those wraps! Nothing understated about those!


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Post 26 Mar 2020, 21:49 • #8 
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Driftless wrote:
Very nice, love those wraps! Nothing understated about those!


Yes, you are correct!


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Post 27 Mar 2020, 11:05 • #9 
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I have that rod with slip rings. My favorite brook trout rod. I use a DT 4.


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Post 27 Mar 2020, 12:25 • #10 
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Very nice -- if that is original, I've not seen that color thread combo -- but it is really neat looking. Also most, if not all examples I've seen have had all cork reel seats with dual sliding bands. IMO the 7090XXL rods are the most desirable trout weight of vintage St Croix fiberglass. I like it with a #4DT.


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Post 27 Mar 2020, 13:38 • #11 
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Love these rods one of the best if not best vintage glass rod out there.


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Post 28 Mar 2020, 10:32 • #12 
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This one reads: "Line E (L 4F) HCH (DT 6F)".

Minimal test casting thus far suggests it likes a four and a five weight line best.


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Post 28 Mar 2020, 10:41 • #13 
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Solid performer. OP rod definitely reworked thread, grip, seat.


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Post 28 Mar 2020, 11:28 • #14 
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Sweet. Right from the time when the letter coded, diameter-based line system was transitioning to the numerical, weight based system. Had forgotten that some (all?) suggested DT6. That, with the L4 would have had me starting with a DT 5. Great reports and pics here.

Not to change that, but an observation, experience based. Right from their time, these were relatively thin-walled blanks in the technology effort to make lighter fiberglass blanks. Much more comprehensive checking would be needed to know for sure. I always thought they were a bit more fragile--a legit design trade-off even if true--than some others of the time in similar configurations. That was strictly anecdotal, seeing them broken here and there.

So I stumbled upon a UL spinning rod of, essentially, the same blank construction. It was a sweet rod, but I had no special affinity for it, and willingly risked it in a little test. I hooked a good schoolie striper in a swift river, and when he went down a chute and around a bridge abutment, I seized the opportunity to test the rod severely by giving him the butt. I thought the 6 lb. test line might break and I'd be out one sinking Rapala, but it didn't go down like that.

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Oh well. That rod, like the fly rods shown, was nicely put up with a great set of slip rings. I abused it on purpose. As Roland Martin would say in a blooper episode where he breaks a rod, "Don't do that."

If it had been one of the fly rods shown, I sure wouldn't have, expecting a lot of fun from a neat rod for a long time.


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Post 28 Mar 2020, 12:06 • #15 
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I had the Herter's-labeled version of that, rated for 6 weight lines, and it fished very well with a DT6, though I'm sure it also handles lighter lines fine. Such a light and flexible blank with so much mysterious power. :)


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Post 28 Mar 2020, 13:39 • #16 
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I have a 6' Herter's too.5wt works well.Very light,real soft but casts like a champ.Guides are badly grooved .So it needs a rewrap any way.


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Post 28 Mar 2020, 14:18 • #17 
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St. Croix made blanks for Herters didn't they?


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Post 28 Mar 2020, 15:41 • #18 
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I have a Cummings rod that I thought used the same blank on first looking at it, On comparison of both, the Cummings (Aristocrat) was stiffer and favored a 5dt line. just for grins I measured the blanks'

Butt: Cummings 11" .3865, 22" .3400, 31" .3020. Tip starting just above male ferrule .2480, 12" .2060, 22" .1675, 32" .1130, Tip 0920.
St.Croix 11" .3645, 22" .3235, 31" .2860 Tip just above the male ferrule .2380, 12" .1970, 22" .1555, 32" .1090, Tip 0815

This leads me to believe St. Croix made two different Ultra Light blanks. I like the lighter blank better. '


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Post 28 Mar 2020, 16:50 • #19 
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pmagas wrote:
I have a Cummings rod that I thought used the same blank on first looking at it, On comparison of both, the Cummings (Aristocrat) was stiffer and favored a 5dt line. just for grins I measured the blanks'

Butt: Cummings 11" .3865, 22" .3400, 31" .3020. Tip starting just above male ferrule .2480, 12" .2060, 22" .1675, 32" .1130, Tip 0920.
St.Croix 11" .3645, 22" .3235, 31" .2860 Tip just above the male ferrule .2380, 12" .1970, 22" .1555, 32" .1090, Tip 0815

This leads me to believe St. Croix made two different Ultra Light blanks. I like the lighter blank better.


I think so too. I have 3 of the 6'8" St Croix rods. They look mostly alike but two are four weights, and one is a much crisper 5/6wt. I also have the Herter's version, it splits the difference between the two and is a nice medium action rod with nice flex and latent power.





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