It is currently 29 Mar 2024, 05:46


1, 2  Next New Topic Add Reply
Author Message
Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 23 Mar 2020, 21:13 • #1 
New Member
Joined: 06/15/19
Posts: 11
Location: US-NC
So I picked one up on the auction site and just recieved it. I am going to pair it with a 1494 and not sure on line but it may just be some standard air-cel WF5. I have a couple of questions for anyone that has one.

Is the tip section supposed to be shorter than the butt section?
Any way to source a cap for the tube? original or suitable replacement?

A quick break down...
fishable condition, some color loss, cork is ridged so going to sand and seal. Came with original tube, missing cap. Sock is tan with green pulls and brass beads.
Howald 1290 on top of gold label, 7 guides + tip-top, looks to be fiberglass floss threads.
No date code or model number on reel seat, black aluminum ferrules.


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 23 Mar 2020, 21:37 • #2 
Glass Fanatic
Joined: 06/23/05
Posts: 4966
Location: US-MT
Tip should be same length as butt.


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 23 Mar 2020, 21:48 • #3 
New Member
Joined: 06/15/19
Posts: 11
Location: US-NC
that's what i was thinking. I do believe this was a 7'9" that had a broken tip repaired.
thank you for the reply.


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 23 Mar 2020, 22:47 • #4 
Glass Fanatic
Joined: 06/11/05
Posts: 1008
Location: US-NY
There are both 7’3” and 7’9” versions of the 1290, so I wouldn’t necessarily assume you have a broken tip. I don’t know if the 7’3” version is supposed to have equal length sections or not. Look for some on the auction site and see if you can figure it out.


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 23 Mar 2020, 23:44 • #5 
Administrator
Joined: 01/10/06
Posts: 7811
Location: Holly Springs, NC
If you post a photo of the rod tip and the next couple of guides, we might be able to make a guess. Nineteen out of 20 times I would assume a tip shorter than the butt was due to a broken tip section.

The Shakespeare catalog thread might have the information you need. Look through the different years for 7'3" model 1290s and see if the sections were the same length.


Tom


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 24 Mar 2020, 07:43 • #6 
Glass Fanatic
Joined: 04/20/07
Posts: 8920
Location: US-ME
The most recent Ebay sale that appears to match the description--just from the pics provided it appears to have been a 7'9" rod broken about where the first snake guide once was (or trimmed to that spot to remove damage above it). A tiptop was installed and rewrapped with red nylon size A thread. That's the way it appears even without comparing to other listings or catalog pics, but as suggested, that would let you judge for certain.


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 24 Mar 2020, 07:46 • #7 
New Member
Joined: 06/15/19
Posts: 11
Location: US-NC
whrlpool wrote:
The most recent Ebay sale that appears to match the description


You would be correct. That is the one. ;)


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 24 Mar 2020, 07:50 • #8 
New Member
Joined: 06/15/19
Posts: 11
Location: US-NC
Thanks for all the answers.. I imagine it will still fish.. I will just need to find another 7'9" intact.. gives me an excuse to buy another rod. :)


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 24 Mar 2020, 10:24 • #9 
Glass Fanatic
Joined: 12/05/06
Posts: 2089
Location: US-PA
The mystery is solved but IF the date code is pre-1951 and it is a 7'3", it will always be an accidental 7'3". ;)

BTW, the catalogs from 1951 show ONE rod labeled as the 1290 with 7'9" & 7'3" below the photo. That rod has even sections. That may mean nothing but I would think if the 7'3" version had uneven sections they would show both rods in the catalog...maybe?


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 24 Mar 2020, 10:26 • #10 
New Member
Joined: 06/15/19
Posts: 11
Location: US-NC
Bamboozle wrote:
The mystery is solved but IF the date code is pre-1951 and it is a 7'3", it will always be an accidental 7'3". ;)

Uhhg.. yeah we will chalk it up to accidental 7'3"... based on other threads I've read on the 7'9", there is a no date code era on these things.. and I see no date code anywhere. Not on the seat or the cork check ring above the seat or on the rod... nothing...


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 24 Mar 2020, 11:12 • #11 
Glass Fanatic
Joined: 02/27/16
Posts: 2327
Location: US-IL
Overline it by one to start,will make a nice pond rod or look for a tip .Find another one that has bad cork etc with an intact tip.I wish i still had one for you.I have found many wonderods just trashed but with the blanks still intact.I pass them on to friend who rebuilds them.


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 24 Mar 2020, 11:47 • #12 
Glass Fanatic
Joined: 12/05/06
Posts: 2089
Location: US-PA
Ignatius wrote:
... based on other threads I've read on the 7'9", there is a no date code era on these things.. and I see no date code anywhere. Not on the seat or the cork check ring above the seat or on the rod... nothing...

I have a 7'9" 1290 with a spring loaded reel seat and the date code is stamped on the upper end (reel foot hood ring) of the reel seat. Mine says FAK which is January of 1950.


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 24 Mar 2020, 13:57 • #13 
Guide
Joined: 11/28/11
Posts: 325
Location: US-MI
Hope you got it real cheap.


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 24 Mar 2020, 20:34 • #14 
Glass Fanatic
Joined: 06/11/05
Posts: 1008
Location: US-NY
There is some cause for suspicion. The missing cap may be “missing” because it may have a label that indicates the true length of the rod. Also, the part of the rod bag that holds the tip section appears to have been shortened by means of some staples. I would think that if it came from the factory as a 7’3” rod with unequal sections, that part of the bag would have been sewn.


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 24 Mar 2020, 21:54 • #15 
New Member
Joined: 06/15/19
Posts: 11
Location: US-NC
pmagas wrote:
Hope you got it real cheap.

probably paid to much considering

gaddis wrote:
There is some cause for suspicion. The missing cap may be “missing” because it may have a label that indicates the true length of the rod. Also, the part of the rod bag that holds the tip section appears to have been shortened by means of some staples. I would think that if it came from the factory as a 7’3” rod with unequal sections, that part of the bag would have been sewn.

yeah i see all this now... thats what i get for late night retail therapy... i will still fish it and enjoy it.. :)


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 25 Mar 2020, 08:00 • #16 
Glass Fanatic
Joined: 02/27/16
Posts: 2327
Location: US-IL
I read the listing.Return it.seller made claims that are not true.They obviously looked up the rod to know years of production.Rod is short,so not in good condition.Tip replaced=modified altered.The description is deceptive.Not saying the seller is doing this with malice but ignorance.They obviously researched the rod.I have sold a lot of things on eBay over the years.I am honest to a fault and highlight any defects.I would inform buyer that the tip was clearly replaced.And go from there.What you played is not chump change.Put a message up in the wanted and you will find a nice wonderod for a few bucks more.


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 25 Mar 2020, 08:08 • #17 
Guide
Joined: 08/26/17
Posts: 189
Location: S.F. Bay Area
I agree completely. Return it. The seller will have no choice but to refund you. Hopefully, lesson learned for both parties.
Mark


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 25 Mar 2020, 08:33 • #18 
Glass Fanatic
Joined: 02/27/16
Posts: 2327
Location: US-IL
For sure,it should have been listed as for parts restore.I myself won't list a short\broken rod.Have sold a few with intact blank but bad guides cork etc.But went out of my way to highlight any damage.


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 25 Mar 2020, 09:54 • #19 
Guide
Joined: 04/08/06
Posts: 124
Location: US-PA
I've had three 7'3" 1290 Wonderods over the years and they all had equal length butt and tip sections. Sold two and kept one. I like mine very much with a WF-5 line. Definitely return it.

- Kevin


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 25 Mar 2020, 10:14 • #20 
Glass Fanatic
Joined: 12/05/06
Posts: 2089
Location: US-PA
gaddis wrote:
There is some cause for suspicion. The missing cap may be “missing” because it may have a label that indicates the true length of the rod. Also, the part of the rod bag that holds the tip section appears to have been shortened by means of some staples. I would think that if it came from the factory as a 7’3” rod with unequal sections, that part of the bag would have been sewn.

I looked and Gadis is indeed correct and a keen observer! The seller was less than truthful.

7'9" 1290's come up on eBay often. I'd return "stubby" (or file a claim) and look for a better example.


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 25 Mar 2020, 11:53 • #21 
Administrator
Joined: 01/10/06
Posts: 7811
Location: Holly Springs, NC
If the seller had no idea about fishing tackle that omission is understandable, but still not an excuse. But this seller is self branding as a fly fishing expert. He knows better. I also recommend that you return the rod for a refund.

The proper category for the refund is "item not as described". The seller offered you a rod in very good condition. He did not disclose the short tip. Instead he promoted it as a 7'3" rod. It was not in good condition - it was damaged goods.


By the way, rod tube caps for these outfits are not available unless you happen to recognize one somewhere in a pile of bits and things. Or you could have a new one made, which would probably cost as much as you paid for the outfit.


Tom


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 25 Mar 2020, 13:58 • #22 
Glass Fanatic
Joined: 02/27/16
Posts: 2327
Location: US-IL
I have had a few of these,i had one of the green ones that was pristine ,shiny jade color, translucent.I could have got a decent price for it.It had some micro cracks ,like you would see on old china but harder to see.I brought it on one of my visits to member Tooty ,who has seen as many wonderods as anyone.He told me it was an older balsa core rod and this cracking is more cosmetic but you never know.He made me an offer and i took.He is a collector i am not.There was no way i was going to sell this online,only to someone who could look it over in person.


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 25 Mar 2020, 15:59 • #23 
Guide
Joined: 06/08/16
Posts: 327
Location: US-MI
My 1290 7’3” Wonderod FKH has equal length sections and the peak of the last guide to the peak of the tiptop is 5”.


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 25 Mar 2020, 20:03 • #24 
New Member
Joined: 06/15/19
Posts: 11
Location: US-NC
Hey guys, I just wanted to close this out by thanking you all for the advise and knowledge shared and giving an update. I reached out to the seller this evening to express my slight disappointment, and relay the issues with the rod. He promptly replied. It was not intentional, and he really did believe that it was correct. Long story short, I am recieving a refund and keeping the rod at his request. Stand up guy that one.


Top
  
Quote
Re: Wonderod 1290 7'3"
Post 27 Mar 2020, 14:47 • #25 
Glass Fanatic
Joined: 03/30/09
Posts: 1525
Location: Hamilton,Ontario,Canada
For sure,you dealt with one of the good guys.Its too bad everyone isn't like that.


Top
  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  

1, 2  Next New Topic Add Reply



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 37 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Jump to:  
Google
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group