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Post 07 Mar 2020, 21:35 • #1 
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I just came into possession (albeit briefly) of a Browning Silaflex 322960 (6' 5wt) and a SA System 5. Both are in excellent condition with original rod socks and tubes. Just wondering what the values of these rods are. They will be going into a TU Chapter auction this Thursday. I'm hoping to perhaps become the permanent owner.

Thanks.

Dave Fowler


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Post 07 Mar 2020, 22:22 • #2 
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I don't know what this outfit is getting on the current market, but to me $200- $250 for the outfit is not at all out of line. The 322XXX series rods are in my opinion the best of the Silaflex series, and I would think the short 5 weight would be an in demand rod. And, of course, the System 5 is an excellent reel.

Larry


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Post 07 Mar 2020, 22:29 • #3 
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Thanks. Would you value each rod about the same?

Dave


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Post 08 Mar 2020, 02:12 • #4 
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To me, the SA System 5 is the more desirable rod, especially with the rod tube. It is one of those sweet spot rods that you can fish anywhere at anytime. The SilaFlex is on the short side and some people don't like the grip. In addition, everyone still knows the Scientific Angler name. Figure the System 5 will sell 50-100% higher than the SilaFlex.

Check eBay’s completed auctions to get an idea on prices. Neither one is going to break the bank.


Tom


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Post 08 Mar 2020, 03:40 • #5 
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System 5 rod is one of the rods I ultimately kept. I agree with jgstar.


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Post 08 Mar 2020, 06:55 • #6 
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I can't imagine a local TU auction generating much bidding competition in either (v. euronymphing graphite) - I expect you will bring home a bargain.
Do not pass go on the System 5.
It's undervalued at any price.


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Post 08 Mar 2020, 07:33 • #7 
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If you want to pay a reasonable price that honors the donation/fundraising purpose, $150 for the System 5 'glass. Let the Silaflex be somebody's bargain; anything over $25.

Above, I think Canoeman understood you to mean an System 5 fly reel with a Silaflex rod. The reel would represent most of the value.

If there is a System 5 reel with the System 5 rod, the price goes up.

Dave, also, we're assuming you are talking about the System 5 Fiberglass. Special. There were System 5 graphites as well, not special.

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Post 08 Mar 2020, 08:49 • #8 
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When I first looked at rod, I thought it was graphite. Then I started researching it and came across discussions of glass System 5's. So then I assumed it was glass, not knowing there was a graphite version. If the pic above with the numbered sections is the graphite, then that's what I have. Thanks for the education and sorry for the confusion. I assume it's worth not as much as the glass version.

Dave


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Post 08 Mar 2020, 08:55 • #9 
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Dave,
The graphite rods are marked “System G” 5, so easily verified. Also I think the graphite rods were in brown tubes and the glass rods in blue.


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Post 08 Mar 2020, 09:35 • #10 
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The G-5 rods had aluminum spigot ferrule.


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Post 08 Mar 2020, 09:46 • #11 
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I must have been half asleep last night when I posted my response. At the time I thought you were talking about a System 5 reel. Now I will have to move my value estimate upward a little.

Larry


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Post 08 Mar 2020, 10:11 • #12 
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That clarifies it even more. I have a blue cloth- covered tube with draw strings. Red rod bag with leather snaps to close. No aluminum ferrules. And no "G". Under a bright light, it looks like glass under the finish.

Thanks for all your help.

Dave


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Post 08 Mar 2020, 10:16 • #13 
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Dave, IMO, you have one of the most-desirable (Fisher-made) glass rods extant.


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Post 08 Mar 2020, 10:42 • #14 
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Glad you’v gotten clarity on what you have there. I agree that a normal chapter auction probably won’t produce top dollar, although since we have a number of members in and around Wisconsin, I suspect a little publicity here might get a couple of extra visitors.


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Post 11 Mar 2020, 22:32 • #15 
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The system 5 rod is so light that I see how one thinks it is graphite.


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Post 12 Mar 2020, 05:14 • #16 
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Joe Fisher never trusted graphite, and built his graphite rods as heavy as his glass rods.


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Post 12 Mar 2020, 08:13 • #17 
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Dave, those are pics of a System 5 'glass (next to another 5-weight, with reddish wraps, on a Fisher blank). Since it's a fundraiser, somebody who appreciates both the rod and the objective of the funds ought to pay a good fair price for it, one of the best production fiberglass rods ever made. A rummage sale price wouldn't do either justice.


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Post 12 Mar 2020, 12:25 • #18 
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bulldog1935 wrote:
Joe Fisher never trusted graphite, and built his graphite rods as heavy as his glass rods.


...and for good reason, in my experience. Graphite is light but just too fragile for my liking most of the time.


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Post 12 Mar 2020, 13:44 • #19 
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he also loved those fine, progressive tips.


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Post 12 Mar 2020, 13:50 • #20 
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Thanks for everyone's responses. All very informative. Just an FYI, and the way things seem to be going these days, tonight's TU auction has been cancelled/postponed to another day due to the coronavirus scare. Considering that many of our members are in the over-60 crowd, it was the right thing to do.

Dave F.


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Post 13 Mar 2020, 07:11 • #21 
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paveglass wrote:
bulldog1935 wrote:
Joe Fisher never trusted graphite, and built his graphite rods as heavy as his glass rods.


...and for good reason, in my experience. Graphite is light but just too fragile for my liking most of the time.


I'm now in this camp to; as I can testify after breaking a NOS Cortland GRF1000 on its first day on the water. First time for a relatively new fly fisher. Talking to my friends it doesn't seem uncommon. One friend commented it is why he never will pay more than $200 for a graphite rod.


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