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Help with Phillipson ID
Post 12 Jan 2020, 13:29 • #1 
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I bought an 8' LL Bean Fiberglass rod that I was told was a Phillipson blank. Wanted to try to confirm. Don't have photo capabilities right now. The rod is 3 piece, sez Bean's "LL" Eponite and 8'. that is all the markings. color is kinda a leather color, lighter than the early tobacco color but not the yellowish Masters color. My question is did Phillipson make 3 piece rods for Bean? the tube has the red cap that is common to Philipson. Any help would be appreciated.


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Post 12 Jan 2020, 13:41 • #2 
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I'm fairly sure Phillipson provided 3-pc 8' rods to LL Bean - those 8' eponite are nice rods.
X80F is the equivalent Phillipson model, 1956-60.


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Post 12 Jan 2020, 14:11 • #3 
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Agree, as described it is likely a Phillipson. If you can, post picures.


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Post 12 Jan 2020, 14:25 • #4 
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thanks Bulldog... the rod has classic Phillipson guides, figured with the Eponite badge it would be late 50's. I just never heard of 3 piece Phillipsons. Again thanks


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Post 12 Jan 2020, 16:08 • #5 
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you're welcome, it's on p. 81 of J&J 1st ed.


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Post 12 Jan 2020, 17:08 • #6 
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If you squint very hard at the forum background image - you will see a three-piece Phillipson. In this case, a Johnson Profile, series 800, three piece, 8-footer. In my very, very biased opinion, I think the Johnson Profile Phillipsons are the most elegant rods ever made, in any material. The double turn snake guides, the drawn nickel-silver ferrules, and especially the 'no-rock' reelseat are very distinct Phillipson hallmarks. The photo below is the same rod, from a different angle.


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Post 12 Jan 2020, 18:49 • #7 
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As far as I know only Phillipson offered "eponite" rods. So seeing as they did supply blanks (possibly full builds) to LL Bean. I suspect you definitely have a Phillipson. 8' is about the max length that they really shine, after that the balance gets a bit off.

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Post 12 Jan 2020, 20:40 • #8 
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Phillipson supplied Beans. A side point, "LL" in this case is short for "Double L" as such products were referred to in conversation and product literature. Although the company name isn't spoken as "Double L Bean," but rather "L. L. Bean," various select, top of the line products had the extra confidence-inspiring "Double L" name, based, like the initials, on the founder's name, Leon Leonwood Bean. Pretty sure "Double L" is trademarked to Bean's. Any how, that's a Double L fly rod.


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Post 13 Jan 2020, 17:08 • #9 
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I have had one up for sale (did I sell it?) It definitely says Eponite on it, which and has the Phillipson Ferrules and grip. It's a really nice rod, but the 3pc, older rod is heavier than the later scotchply 2pc rods. However the 3pc packs down to a very nice size.


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Post 16 Jan 2020, 19:38 • #10 
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Figured i would test the uploader. My favorite rod to look at too.


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Post 18 Jan 2020, 11:43 • #11 
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It's a beauty!


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