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Post 23 Aug 2019, 14:02 • #1 
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Howdy all,
I've been lurking around this site for a few years and finally decided to join. Quick intro, I started flyfishing around 1974, my first decent rod was a 8 1/2' Berkley Parametric which I still have, followed by a few Fenwicks. I eventually moved on to Graphite and then years later went off the deep end into Bamboo. The last few years I've started to fish more with glass (vintage) and really enjoyed it. I had forgotten what it was like to fish with glass, and the fish don't care what your casting with!

Anyway, I found this 8 1/2' fiberglass rod for $20. Its labeled Wallace Flycaster 8 1/2'. I did an internet search and forum search but found nothing. Any info would greatly be appreciated! The rod needs a little work, it has a bent tiptop and 1st guide. It also has a possible hook dig and/or crack between the tiptop and 1st guide, an easy fix with a repair wrap. Thanks for any info you can provide. Bruce



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Post 23 Aug 2019, 14:51 • #2 
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Did some more internet searching and came up with this but still no answer on who or what it is. https://www.reddit.com/r/flyfishing/com ... andpa_has/



Almost looks Fenwick-ish


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Post 23 Aug 2019, 17:01 • #3 
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that translucent blank is pretty enough to be St. Croix


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Post 25 Aug 2019, 14:16 • #4 
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bulldog1935 wrote:
that translucent blank is pretty enough to be St. Croix



That's why I bought it other than I had never heard of Wallace before. It also has a decent number guides (8) plus the stripper and feels very light weight for an 8 1/2'er. Balances out well with either the Pflueger 1494 or 95. This one will get some fishing time once I do some maintenance work on it. Bruce


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Post 25 Aug 2019, 18:54 • #5 
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That looks very much like the translucent blanks on some of the Cortland FR-2000 rods(my favorite vintage rods). If it is the same it is an awesome slow action rod.


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Post 25 Aug 2019, 19:11 • #6 
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Is the spigot hollow??

I've never seen a St Croix with a spigot ( but I sure aint seen it all) but Lamiglas makes a root beer brown blank (LTD) that has a short, brown spigot like that, they use hollow spigot.

The glass certainly looks like some St Croix I have.


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Post 25 Aug 2019, 19:47 • #7 
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St. Croix provided spigot-ferrule blanks to both Vince Cummings and Russ Peak

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Post 25 Aug 2019, 21:05 • #8 
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Lami spigots. More coming


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Post 25 Aug 2019, 21:11 • #9 
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This one is a 8.5ft LTD Lamiglas
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Post 25 Aug 2019, 21:43 • #10 
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majicwrench wrote:
Is the spigot hollow??

I've never seen a St Croix with a spigot ( but I sure aint seen it all) but Lamiglas makes a root beer brown blank (LTD) that has a short, brown spigot like that, they use hollow spigot.

The glass certainly looks like some St Croix I have.



Yes the spigot is hollow. I wonder if this rod originally had different ferrules because the tip is 1" longer than the butt, and overall length is 8' 7". Wish I could find more pics of another rod like it.
Wiggle test feels nice, but have to wait to cast it as I just put on a repair wrap on the tip for a possible hook ding and/or crack. Bruce


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Post 25 Aug 2019, 22:25 • #11 
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An interesting rod with that unique tip top, the heavy thread wraps and the stripper. Those items make it seem older. I know we got hollow spigot Lami's in the mid/late 70's.

Is end of reel seat open?? Could it have had a 1" fighting butt? Odd that tip and butt are different.


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Post 26 Aug 2019, 05:11 • #12 
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Photo #2, the female ferrule looks like a wrapped over sleeve. Perhaps the blank is a Berkley.


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Post 26 Aug 2019, 09:32 • #13 
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Kind of a clumsy looking oversleeve, whole thing is a bit of a odd-ball.
The oversleeve could count for the tip being an inch longer than butt.


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Post 26 Aug 2019, 10:03 • #14 
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archfly wrote:
Photo #2, the female ferrule looks like a wrapped over sleeve. Perhaps the blank is a Berkley.

Who knows?? At this point it is still a mystery who or what made the rod. I'm trying to contact the person who took this pic. Hopefully they can provide me with more pics of their rod.



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Post 26 Aug 2019, 10:10 • #15 
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majicwrench wrote:

Is end of reel seat open?? Could it have had a 1" fighting butt? Odd that tip and butt are different.




yes the end of reel seat is open, didnt notice that until I got the rod home the other day.


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Post 19 Aug 2021, 01:20 • #16 
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I have a Wallace flycaster wfl90 9’ line #9 or #10 and can’t find anything out about it either. I literally know nothing about flyfishing it’s my first flypole. I haven’t even been fly fishing yet. There is a crest before the Wallace with two lions and the shield has what looks to be a bird a elk and a fish on it.


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Post 19 Aug 2021, 07:48 • #17 
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Don't know anything about Wallace - the example discussed on this thread looks like a hand-polished St. Croix blank.

What you have is a stout rod for salmon, NE stripers or even offshore dorado.
If you can post photos, especially details, we'd love to see them.


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Post 19 Aug 2021, 14:37 • #18 
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Hope I am adding the image correctly.


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Post 19 Aug 2021, 19:24 • #19 
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Interesting rod. Would like to see more photos too


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Post 19 Aug 2021, 20:46 • #20 
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Post 20 Aug 2021, 09:03 • #21 
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Nice toes :)

At least the example above look like a factory wrap job, the previous rod looks homespun.


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Post 20 Aug 2021, 10:22 • #22 
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Hope this guess will at least keep the query going until we get to the bottom of it. The recently posted rod looks like a Berkley trade rod (note the extra sleeve at the female ferrule). Thus, it could have been produced and labeled for a regional or local company with a large sporting goods section in its store(s). Possibly this one: https://www.wallacehardware.com/The-Wallace-Story I don't know if Wallace carried a lot of fishing tackle, but somebody might remember from the time period, probably 1970 to1980 or so when the glass spigot ferruled Berkley rods were most common. Somebody more ambitious than I am today could try to look back at Wallace lettering and images (like the lion rampant shown) to see how they compare. Could be a completely different company, or even a manufacturer mentioned earlier in the discussion, but if we think trade rod, we might get it figured out.


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Post 20 Aug 2021, 11:17 • #23 
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That oversleeve is really short compared to most Berkleys, and Berkley only used hollow spigot on their Parametric line. Like was mentioned, the glass itself look like many St Croix.

The short, hollow spigot reeks of Lamiglas.

Certainly a mystery at this point.
AKA TUESDAY does your rod have a hollow spigot? (the piece that joins the two sections)


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Post 20 Aug 2021, 17:41 • #24 
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Wonder if the rod has been refinished? I looked closely at the stripper. Even though the photo is blurry the stripper almost looks modern, I dont know hard to tell. Reel seat looks like my Wallace flycaster minus the fighting butt and grip is the same, Does the decal on this rod say where it was made??

Bruce


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Post 20 Aug 2021, 18:19 • #25 
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They are hollow where they connect. The first hole for line is round and the one at the tip is round but the others are squiggly. It looks like it came this way there's no sign of any modification that I can see. What do you think of the crest?


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