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Post 07 Apr 2019, 14:19 • #1 
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Looking at this one...it is a 7', 1-624-1, swelled ferrule...I've read some comments about this ferrule design, but haven't read any red flags...Are there any known issues? Should this rod be avoided because of the ferrules?

Price seems fair...it's $100 with sock and tube and barely used....comes with a heddon 310 with box and paperwork, again, barely used...classic combo...

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Post 07 Apr 2019, 14:43 • #2 
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That's up to you if you want the rod or not. But over my to many years, I've learned their is no ferrule type that can't be fixed if some thing happens to it.


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Post 07 Apr 2019, 15:03 • #3 
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You could get 75 just for that reel.The rod seems otherwise in excellent shape.


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Post 07 Apr 2019, 15:16 • #4 
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Looks like a 444 line on the reel, too. I’d scoop that up quick.


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Post 07 Apr 2019, 18:17 • #5 
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Nothing wrong with that ferrule, I have that rod, really soft. more of a 4/5 that the listed 5/6.

I moved the stripper closer to the seat on mine, it was way out there.

Reel is sweet!


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Post 07 Apr 2019, 22:27 • #6 
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I have the 1-624-1 seven footer, staggered design, with the tip about 6" longer than the butt, but mine is a regular tip-over-butt that was cracked around the mouth and needed to be reinforced with a collar. That sleeved female is much superior and I would pounce on that rod!
It's a very light rod and the only reel I have that is light enough is an MG-3.


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Post 08 Apr 2019, 19:44 • #7 
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Thanks all...I'll post photos when I get it...

Sounds like the swelled ferrule design isn't an issue...

Seems odd they would make the same model number in various section lengths...maybe the model number was based on the blank, no matter how they cut it..

This one is labeled 3 oz...should swing pretty well with a MG3 or Heddon 300...I have a 1392 I could try...

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Post 09 Apr 2019, 08:01 • #8 
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I don't remember the variations of the FR 2000, but it looks like that is fitted with a sleeve ferrule, a reliable and easy to repair design. Not especially damage prone unless assembled too tight or too lose. Some don't like their appearance. One tip, assuming I'm seeing it right and it is a sleeve: grasp the sleeve itself, not the blank section when assembling or disassembling. This makes it less likely that the blank section the sleeve is fitted over will work its way loose or tight in the sleeve.


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Post 09 Apr 2019, 11:44 • #9 
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Will have to take a close look at mine, but I don't think it is a sleeve, is an actual swelled section.

Cortland clearly had two diff makers for their FR2000, the swelled ferrule rods, which there don't seem to be as many, and the more typical tip over butt rods that appear to me to be St Croix.


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Post 09 Apr 2019, 11:48 • #10 
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Aha! Thanks. Curious now.


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Post 09 Apr 2019, 12:54 • #11 
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Who made the swelled ferrule blank? Was it Conolon or Fisher?

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Post 09 Apr 2019, 12:59 • #12 
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Something else you may want to consider, cut the bottom off a candle, and each time you use any glass to glass or any carbon fiber Ferrules rub the male end with the wax, then wipe it off. It keeps the ferrules in good shape and cuts down on wear. Some will say do it others will say no don't do it. My reason for doing it, is it adds a lube to the ferrule and a micro gap and any time two parts are being put together and taken a part a lube always helps. Some rod companies use to give you a wax stick when you bought a rod, but none do now. Another thing is, some guys have a hard time getting their rods a part. I've never had that problem. A very good friend once lent a Winston bl5 to a guy going to the islands for a bone fish trip. The guy put the rod sections together in his air conditioned room and left them together for the week. When it was time to go home, he couldn't get the rod sections a part. They even put the rod in a walk in freezer for an hour and still it wouldn't come a part. His plane was getting ready to leave so to make the plane he sawed the rod sections, cutting it into 5 neat sections. Once home gave the rod back to my friend and said get a new one and send me the bill. Only trouble was, they didn't make that rod any more. True story. So to me wax the ferrules and take your rod down after each fishing day.


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Post 09 Apr 2019, 13:22 • #13 
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Unbelievable story, saltfly.
The tip over FR2000 I had got a brass ring put on it as reinforcement not long after it was new. Female side was very thin/fragile, prone to loosen or twist while roll casting. I never encountered the sleeved version.


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Post 09 Apr 2019, 13:25 • #14 
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I would say the swelled ferrule rods are not Garcia or Fisher, (never seen a swelled female Fisher) but I don't know who made em, so anybodys guess.....


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Post 09 Apr 2019, 16:19 • #15 
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That sleeve-type ferrule reminds me of a Browning Sila-flex.


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Post 09 Apr 2019, 16:39 • #16 
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I don't mean to sound dumb here , it's been years since I owned any of the Heddon reels. I use to have three full sets. Sold them 25 years ago. But what is the dia of the spool? I ask because I still have 4 spare spools for one. Their 2 3/4" in diameter. If anybody has one that size, you can have these, just pay the shipping. one doesn't have a handle but their easy to make. Again I'm not sure if their for a 300 or a 310.


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Post 09 Apr 2019, 19:43 • #17 
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Looking over my FR2000, I do believe that is a sleeve, and not a swelled, female ferrule.


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Post 20 Apr 2019, 17:14 • #18 
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As stated, here are some photos.

Linker75, you were correct, it came with a Cortland Peach 444 DT5 and it's in fine condition...this combo lawn casts great for me...haven't tried a 4w yet...it's definitely a soft rod...softer than the Fenwick 5wts...it's one of the most translucent blanks I've seen..I would say more so than the Fenwicks...very similar colored blank...should be really fun with 16" trout...this one hasn't seen much use...neither has the reel...

whirlpool, I too think it is fitted sleeve...you can see in the close-up shots where it looks like a sleeve is fitted over the blank..

Can't wait to gt this one on the water...thanks for all the help..

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Post 04 Feb 2020, 16:32 • #19 
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I revisited his thread as I was chatting with a friend about this rod, and figured I'd add my casting experience. I took advice and tried it with a DT4 and have to say that, despite being so light, it's a five weight for me. The DT4 casts a decent loop, but the rod is devoid of feeling and I had trouble knowing when to stop the backcast. Far superior with a heavier line!
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Post 05 Feb 2020, 20:14 • #20 
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Thank you Shrimpster...good to know...a DT5 threw well, so haven't it out with a DT4 yet.

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Post 12 Feb 2020, 16:45 • #21 
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I actually like that ferrule style. I have a Leonard Graftek with that sleeve-type ferrule on it and it is very nice.


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Post 15 Feb 2020, 10:48 • #22 
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I also have the 1-624-1. I fish it with a DT5 by 406 fly lines, and I am happy with it. I haven't had any issues with this ferrule design.


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Post 17 Feb 2020, 21:39 • #23 
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I have the later model which is a staggered ferrule. I would prefer this one, just for portability sake. I wouldn't mind an earlier cortand with metal ferrules either. They all cast like butter.


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Post 10 Oct 2020, 11:12 • #24 
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I have the 7’ 5w model pretty similar to that one. The wraps on mine are slightly different and that’s about it. Probably just a different year of manufacture. I never fished mine much until I cast a DT4 line on it. It is much more of a 4/5 rod than a 5/6. I can’t imagine anyone flipping around a 6w line with the thing. I prefer mine with the 4w line over a 5 as I feel a slightly more noticeable “slap down” on the cast with the 5. The 4 lays a nice, delicate lay down with a dry fly on. I fished it yesterday on a wild rainbow stream close to home and caught probably between 20-30 smaller fish on it on dries.


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Post 10 Oct 2020, 17:32 • #25 
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My guess on those ferrules is Korean. Very similar to the Korean Berkley’s.


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