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Re: it's even got mylar
Post 27 Sep 2018, 21:39 • #26 
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Dang. A beauty of a combo.


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Re: it's even got mylar
Post 27 Sep 2018, 22:28 • #27 
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thanks, I'll be fishing it in about 8 days


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Re: it's even got mylar
Post 09 Oct 2018, 16:45 • #28 
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took it out for a long paddle around the perimeter of Estes Flats to Little Cut, but couldn't find a fish worth casting to - even though the water was loaded with bait.
The green lights on the bottom of the canal brought up all the residents every night and morning.
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Caught 14" specs on the floating line with a tiny size 6 popper - it was fun to watch them chase it, but they'd only fall for that once.
And more on the slime line and tiny size 6 whistlers. Generally, not a lot of bait in the canals, which wouldn't bring in the schoolies (with all the freshwater in the bays this fall, the schoolies really don't travel too far in).
But still got to break it in and had plenty of fun doing it. Overall, the rod loads and casts much better with the slime line.
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We also did fine throwing lures on our bait tackle drift fishing home - I'll get a longer report on another spin later...just got home this afternoon


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Re: it's even got mylar
Post 19 Oct 2018, 12:24 • #29 
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finally got the catalog into the copystand at the office (I get to work at home a lot...)
1960 Harnell
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Re: it's even got mylar
Post 19 Oct 2018, 12:33 • #30 
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Bulldog, thank you...great info...not sure I've ever seen one of the shorter dry fly rods...they do seem to be slightly heavier than comparable rods for their length...would be fun to find and fish one of the 6' or 7' rods....the search goes on...

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Post 19 Oct 2018, 12:42 • #31 
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you can see for my purpose, the 652 is The rod.

Though I might like to find the 7'6" 7-wt combo and rebuild it salty fly specific.


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Post 19 Oct 2018, 12:48 • #32 
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Yes, I'm sure you had a great time using it...love the torpedo head line description...

Being from the west coast, we may have more exposure to Harnell and their quality than much of the country....they are still considered one of the top vintage Salt Water heavy rods made, and still quite popular and sought after...though even here, you don't see many of their fly rods and thus not as well known for them...

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Post 23 Oct 2018, 08:14 • #33 
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The rod and reel look like they were made for each other and I love the under wraps......Aurelio


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Post 23 Oct 2018, 09:06 • #34 
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thanks - I was lucky to find such a nice example, the exact rod I was hunting, in such a short hunt and an almost unopposed snipe.
Also haven't seen cork of this grade in awhile.

This will probably be the only fly rod I'll take to Arroyo in 2 weeks.
Dock fishing there will give me a good chance for a snook.
Will also be drawing in Much bigger specs off the dock.
In fact, Arroyo City could be named Big Trout City.
sample from last year, keeper nursery trout next to a schoolie - got up in the morning and caught these before we went fishing
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every spec we filleted last year was a male, and there are plenty of big females that winter in Lower Laguna Madre,
and should be even more this year with all the rain the upper coast has received.


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Re: it's even got mylar
Post 23 Dec 2018, 10:28 • #35 
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Sandman wrote:
Thanks for the heads up Bulldog...I'm not sure Harnell made a 4/5w fly rod...still researching...

Sandman


I just got he 7’6” listed as a light weight in their catalog, it’s sweet with a WF 6


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Post 23 Dec 2018, 10:37 • #36 
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post a photo when you get there, bro - yours is probably a 645.
Think I pointed out on one of my CGR7/8 posts, my Harnell 652 is a faster 7-wt than the CGR.

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Post 25 Dec 2019, 10:06 • #37 
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Adding to Harnell thread - apparent earlier 1652-R Bronz-Glas (bronze glass for searching)
with block cork and Aetna stripping guide

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accepts 2-5/8" Young foot


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Post 28 Dec 2019, 09:43 • #38 
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Ron, Looks like you will be set up for a great trip! I look forward to learning salt fishing from you one day. My kayak is a Hobie Mirage Sport. I only have a couple of rods in heavier weights though. The rod I used from my kayak in Tampa was a 7 1/2 ft Actionrod that I used in the mangroves. My other heavy rod is an 8 1/2 ft Shakespeare FY-A510 which is my only glass rod that long and was the top end of their line in its day


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Post 28 Dec 2019, 09:52 • #39 
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That's a great kayak rig Donny. The long Shakespeare would be a great wading rod.
Hobie Mirage drive works great - my buddy Steve has the 16' turbo-fin Revo, which really moves out and covers distance. It also lets you control the boat with your feet while casting with your arms. A lot of the water here is too skinny for Mirage drive, though, and have to revert to paddle.
If you make it down here, though, I can spare a boat.
I've picked up a couple of small reels for the 645, and will post more photos later.


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Post 28 Dec 2019, 11:07 • #40 
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We are headed out to visit grandkids for a week. When are you going?

PS: I had a 22” rainbow almost to the net three times the other day but lost him when it bolted downstream and snapped my 5x. Would have been the fish of the year. Arrrghhh.


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Post 28 Dec 2019, 15:23 • #41 
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These big Colorado rainbows know what to do when hooked -- get into the main current and head straight for Denver (Las Vegas from your location). Trying to get them turned often results in a break-off or pullout. Sorry you lost that one.

Have fun with the grandkids and fishing the Gulf!


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Post 29 Dec 2019, 05:24 • #42 
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Alaska rainbows are measured by month - the subtle differences in length are insignificant compared with body mass from gorging salmon eggs and flesh.


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Post 29 Dec 2019, 08:42 • #43 
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Love those Valentine reels !!!


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Post 30 Dec 2019, 22:04 • #44 
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photos of the c. 1956 7-1/2' 645-R
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Post 31 Dec 2019, 02:53 • #45 
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Cool...that’s a tough looking rod...the one piece cork always stands out on these...Harnell was a high end US production rod of the time..

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Post 31 Dec 2019, 10:15 • #46 
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Thanks - my next use for these is going to be dock fishing at Arroyo next month. My Lamson LP-3.5 was way too much reel for the 645, found an amazing near-gift buy on the Fin-Nor CR67, and moved the TS-250 over to it. Also picked up an Sth Airweight 5/6 at a fair price and moved T-200 to it. The latter is not a great reel, but the former is, and I posted a reels-page thread with details of the Cabelas Fin-Nor CR, and comparing it with my 12-wt Abel.
Of course I'll be bringing the '60 652 and Valentine combo with slime line.


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Post 31 Dec 2019, 16:24 • #47 
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Excellent, sounds like Harnell heaven...

I'd like to find one of those Fin-Nor CR Cabellas in a 3/4 or 4/5...if they made them...

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Post 31 Dec 2019, 17:23 • #48 
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I'm pretty sure 6/7 was the small, equivalent to Seamaster/Fin-Nor No. 1


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Post 02 Jan 2020, 10:03 • #49 
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Ron you have done well in your securing vintage Harnells in fishable condition. Seems the ones I come across always have issues. I am curious as to their casting traits compared to other glass.


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Post 02 Jan 2020, 10:15 • #50 
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Hi friend, some internet BB's I searched call them semi-para tapers, faster than most glass, especially from the 50s.
To me, they're fast progressive and remind me of Fisher graphite, both weight and action.
Casting-wise, it makes them pretty good rockets, the 7'6" not especially forgiving, but that improves with the 8' rods (and I'm guessing in the longer rods).
The 645, 7'6", with its narrow butt, is much more the fast para example, though all the rods carry a power reserve in their butts.

I love to compare the Harnell with CGR 7/8 because they are so different.
The CGR has a particularly slow mid that makes it tough to shoot, though it fishes close extremely well.
Comparatively, the Harnells are all casting rockets.


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