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Post 17 Jul 2016, 21:34 • #1 
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Anyone else have a Fenwick with this reel seat? This one is beyond the 'dusty lavender' anodizing found on other early '60s rods.
And the shape of the butt cap - did any other rod companies use this design? Who was the manufacturer?
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Post 18 Jul 2016, 09:14 • #2 
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Those are among the finest looking Fenwicks. Sweet!


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Post 18 Jul 2016, 09:50 • #3 
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Nice colors!

IMHO - That looks like a Varmac seat, although the butt cap looks more rounded than what they usually do. But I have been wrong before.


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Post 18 Jul 2016, 10:21 • #4 
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No idea on the reel seat. My FF90 has a similar shaped seat, but different color. Sorry no help

BUT I have to say that is a beautiful rod...Very Nice!


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Post 18 Jul 2016, 10:37 • #5 
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Great looking Fenwick!


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Post 18 Jul 2016, 11:03 • #6 
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Winding check appears to match color of reel seat - very pretty indeed!


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Post 22 Jul 2016, 05:06 • #7 
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Never seen that color combo seat before. Nice!


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Post 22 Jul 2016, 06:56 • #8 
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Very cool Fenwick! Markings look like those on Fenwick factory rods, but from the cork check to the butt cap it looks custom. I wonder if the check, grip, and seat were replaced? In any case you have fine rod. Enjoy!


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Post 22 Jul 2016, 08:32 • #9 
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Maybe it's just the photo, but the butt cap looks different than the rings at the other end of the seat.


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Post 22 Jul 2016, 09:11 • #10 
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At that time, OEM suppliers often sold the identical product--reel seat in this case--on the retail/wholesale market to other customers, anything from hobbyists to small custom makers. I have the identical seat, new-old-stock I got somewhere, that I happened to use on a yellow Fenwick build a few years ago. It was a common seat of the time, but unless the OEM customer ordered a brand-specific touch (an engraved logo, for instance), the seat doesn't necessarily indicate factory vs. custom. That's a Fenwick for sure, but in some cases you could find the OEM seat used on similar rods as to other hardware and cosmetics, but of completely different brands. Essentially, they were just assembled from the same OEM parts bin.

The anodized colored parts of the time, as well as different production lots of the same product, usually account for color differences even at the time, let alone decades later after weathering. That is a relatively large diameter seat for a short rod, so possibly that is a factory rod with just the seat replaced at some point. But again, remembering parts availability and manufacturing practice at the time ("We reserve the right to change specifications without notice") it certainly could be a factory rod all the way, even if not many of that model were produced with that seat.

I don't know why, but I seem to think that is an Allan Manufacturing seat. Or possibly Featherlight. Or Calair, which I don't know how to spell. Obviously, not sure.


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Post 22 Jul 2016, 11:14 • #11 
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Thank you for the replies, everyone.


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Post 22 Jul 2016, 13:55 • #12 
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The FF60 is a sleeper, I think. Really sweet rod. Incredibly light and a lively action. That one is gorgeous.


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Post 22 Jul 2016, 14:45 • #13 
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I agree, it's a smart taper. Some say it doesn't roll cast well, but for me it does a fine job with a 5 or 6 DT. I hold my short rods pretty far back near the reel seat, and I have long, gawky arms - so maybe that helps the roll.


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Post 17 Mar 2021, 16:39 • #14 
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So I just bought a new to me FF and was reading up on the winding check, which is different shape and color from all my other FF’s.
Anyway, I came across Lunker75’s query from a few years back and figured I’d add some “color”. Below are a couple pics showing the reddish/orangy, flatter-than-typical winding check. It’s a D FF79 in good shape. Everything else looks original (tube, sock, seat, handle, etc) so I assume everything is.



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Post 17 Mar 2021, 19:17 • #15 
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Nice! ‘63 was a good year for Fenwick trim. Dusty lavender, plum purple, candy apple red, gold; in varying lusters and shapes even. Good to see that FF79.


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Post 23 Mar 2021, 15:29 • #16 
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I have 3 Fenwicks from 1963, FF90, FF84 & FF79 The 84 and the 79 have the same seat, just different colors. The FF90 looks more like the one in the OP but different color and threaded more than 3/4 of the way down to the butt. Pics when I can get home and take some.


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