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Post 16 Sep 2020, 16:59 • #1 
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Recently I decided to take a fly rod fishing a lake in my canoe. Bass fishing. Couldn’t decide whether to take a longer or shorter rod. Settled on a 7 1/2 foot rod mainly for convenience since my canoe is only 12 foot. It worked well. Casting sitting down was still able to get at least 30 feet of fly line out without rocking the boat. What length rod do you use in a canoe?


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Post 16 Sep 2020, 17:14 • #2 
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I fish for tiger muskies out of my Outcast Commander (sitting down like in a float tube)and much prefer an 8' rod (or just about anything shorter than 9'), but it's more for fighting larger fish in tight quarters. The majority of my targets are within 60'. As long as you have decent form, casting won't be an issue. Ultimately though, it's going to come down to what you prefer.


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Post 16 Sep 2020, 17:32 • #3 
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Inshore with a kayak, you need to be able to reach around the boat, because a slot redfish will go around twice before you can get him to hand.


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Post 16 Sep 2020, 20:22 • #4 
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I fish for bass from a canoe as much or more than on foot. In the boat I typically have an 8'9” or 9' rod. Would be fine with anything over 8' but I like the length on the open water.

In a small river I might take an 8'er.

Doesnt really matter though, if the 7.5 is good for you, have fun! If youre looking for suggestions; try a longer rod (or bring both) and see how you like it.


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Post 16 Sep 2020, 21:29 • #5 
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Thanks for the thoughts. Next time I will try an 8 1/2 foot rod. Didn’t think about a fish going around the front of the canoe.


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Post 16 Sep 2020, 21:42 • #6 
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Doesn't matter at all, I'll use whichever rod calls out to me on a given day. My longest rod won't reach around the front of the 17' canoe but the boat will move where the fish hauls it. My shortest rod is easier to reach the tip of if I make a mess.
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Ultimately though, it's going to come down to what you prefer.


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Post 16 Sep 2020, 22:47 • #7 
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7’6 - 8’9” (and a few in between) are my go-to lengths. I’m casting from a very low sitting position in a touring kayak.

I started out kayak fishing with a 9’ 5wt and 8wt. But found casting to be so much easier with the shorter rods, in all weights 3-8. And that’s all I’ve used for years.

Recently tried two 9’ rods that I really like, and nope, just did not appreciate them while sitting.


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Post 17 Sep 2020, 05:54 • #8 
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In a canoe, I like a longer rod for the casting distance.


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Post 17 Sep 2020, 06:34 • #9 
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I would use a FF79 when I floated streams in MO.in my canoe hunting trout or rock bass and bluegill ............Aurelio


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Post 17 Sep 2020, 07:15 • #10 
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Thanks again everyone. A goal for me is don’t rock the boat, so I don’t tip over, and don’t scare the fish. So I will end up choosing a rod which I can cast with little effort. Next time will take my ff857.


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Post 17 Sep 2020, 07:46 • #11 
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To me, a comfortable casting rod is the most important. A skillfully maneuvered canoe, anchored to hang straight in the current along a sweet spot run, or drifted a prime route, obviates the need of long casts, unusual mends, and so on--where length and reach might be an advantage. Smooth, well placed, relatively short casts would be the norm, as opposed to thrashing for distance beyond your comfort level. Rock the boat--disturb the run, put the fish down. Be still in a well positioned craft and the fish can be under the rod tip. As to length, comfort translates to the line weight and canoe size. Comfortable storage, easy grab and cast, and so on. Ability to reach around the bow and/or stern from fishing position. Ability to fish under the rod tip within a few feet of the gunwales. Nevermind far; you can move over there later. Don't move to soon; let the craft stabilize and the fish resume normal activity. If watching the "next" spot, plan a stealth drift or approach to anchor position. Well anyhow, for 'glass rods, I think 8' is my default in 16 to 18' canoes. Plus or minus half a foot would be fine. In a shorter canoe, 7 1/2, plus or minus 6".


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Post 17 Sep 2020, 08:50 • #12 
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Sitting in a canoe should put your rod tip as high above the water as standing about knee deep, the lift the boat gives effectively makes the rod longer than if wading waist deep. I also stand in my canoe when water allows it, so casting can be as from a pier.
Most often though the boat is transportation when in a stream, to be beached while wade fishing, actually fishing from the canoe requires a lake for me. Paddling takes both hands and so does fly fishing, guess I'm not as athletic as some people. I never could play the banjo either.


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Post 17 Sep 2020, 09:41 • #13 
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I never enjoyed fly fishing from a canoe because I tend to get my whole torso into the act and rolling over was a constant threat. Then I got a Gheenoe which you cannot tip over if you try and that was a real game changer.


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Post 17 Sep 2020, 19:45 • #14 
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Most of my boat fishing is from a 16' canoe and a 10', 36" beam jon boat. I have found that I like a 7' to 8' rod in the canoe, but the jon boat is slightly more stable, so I like an 8' to 8-1/2' rod in it. Now that I read that, I guess it really is what rod I feel like taking that day... I just feel a little less tippy in the canoe with the shorter rods.


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Post 18 Sep 2020, 13:40 • #15 
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I also FF from a 12' canoe and use 8' to 9' rods.I like the 8' or 8'8" best and the 7.5' the least.


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Post 18 Sep 2020, 14:01 • #16 
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Heddonist wrote:
I never enjoyed fly fishing from a canoe because I tend to get my whole torso into the act and rolling over was a constant threat. Then I got a Gheenoe which you cannot tip over if you try and that was a real game changer.


My Gheenoe has proven that theory wrong, however. Of course it took an inexperienced friend and a 15 hp motor to do it. ;-)

As far as rod length goes, you do need to be able to reach all the way around whatever boat you are in. My kayaks are 9 ft so I can use a 7 1/2 ft rod without difficulty and I lean toward a rod that length so I can restring it without having to dip my reel into the water.


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Post 18 Sep 2020, 17:41 • #17 
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Good arguments for both shorter and longer rods. I guess it comes down to personal preference and circumstances. Interesting, I learned some things. Thanks again.


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Post 18 Sep 2020, 19:57 • #18 
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Room to cast usually determines rod length for me when I am in my canoe. I do like a shorter rod (8 ft) when fishing tight creeks.


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Post 18 Sep 2020, 22:28 • #19 
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In my kayak I too like a 7.5 or 8' rod. Lately I've been using a Phillipson MF80L 5 weight.


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Post 20 Sep 2020, 11:48 • #20 
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For kayak and float tube bass bugging, even extremely short rods such as 5'8" and 6'6" are available on the Japanese market.
Shorter rods are not suitable for long distance casting, but they can help you do short distance casting at a faster tempo.

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Alchemy Dharma 583 Bass & Gill Special 5'8" 3P #5-6

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Brightliver Hipster 1664 6'6" 4P #7-8


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Post 21 Sep 2020, 10:12 • #21 
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Beautiful rods. Short quick casts could certainly be useful if floating a stream with fast current. And most strikes in my experience are within a couple seconds of the fly landing. But I fish a shallow clear lake where the fish are boat wary. So I think I need at least a 40 foot cast without creating boat waves. So will stick eith somewhat longer rods.


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