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Post 23 Jul 2014, 11:04 • #1 
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I have posted earlier about how much I love the FF756-4 I just got and how versatile it is, here in the Driftless. Just got back the Breckenridge area and it proved itself there too. Wind, lakes, rivers, streamers, hopper/dropper, size 20 dries, size 6 dries, nymphing - it did it all.

So now I have the Fenwick sickness and was wondering what others to add, to cover all the bases. This site is an incredible resource for all things fiberglass and doing some research, this is what I came up with.

FF70 (or FF70-4): small stream work.
FF79: because everyone needs the ultimate dry fly Fenwick
FF806: Bigger trout water and smallies.
FF85: Bass and maybe some steelhead/pike.

What do you all think? Am I missing anything, to fill the gaps? Do you think I can just stop at five?

Thanks for any suggestions!


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Post 23 Jul 2014, 11:46 • #2 
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you cannot stop at 5. Oh, the home general will want you to stop;... you'll consider stopping,... but..... those little minigaps just gotta be filled!!!! Maybe a 605, a 705, 807, etc., etc.!!!!!!-p-


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Post 23 Jul 2014, 14:08 • #3 
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Well, if you were going to stop at five, I'd say those are pretty good ones for what I understand Driftless fishing to entail. But it really depends on what your fishing is and the flies you throw. Good thing about vintage Fenwicks is that, despite the good reputation we've helped grow, they can still be had at pretty reasonable prices, and resale is strong. Essentially, if you wanted to see if a FF605 or FF858 floated your boat, it's a rental; you could buy it for not too much, fish it for a couple of years, and pass it along for about the same price if you didn't want to hang on to it.


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Post 23 Jul 2014, 16:33 • #4 
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I love travel rods. Pick up an 856-5 and a 858-5 and you will have most of your bases covered.


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Post 23 Jul 2014, 17:43 • #5 
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Driftless, I only have two at this point but who knows? Only recently acquired.

FF805 - very well taken care of and very nice 5-6 wt. a little better with a 6 for me.
FF79 - appears new unfished, tip over butt ferrule shows no signs of being assembled although I've had it together a few times but only lawn cast so far. Handles a WF/DT5, WF/DT6 and WF7 in my hands - I will fish this rod for smallies using size 6-8 unweighted - lightly weighted streamers fairly soon. I think it will handle this just fine.

Very new to glass but I love Fenwicks so far. What Fenwick model is the quintessential 7 wt. smallie rod? Is it the FF806 you have and mention?
John


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Post 23 Jul 2014, 22:07 • #6 
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Hi John,

I just have the 756-4. It seems like a lot of people like the FF806 for smallies and as one of the best all around rods there is. Sounds like you are on your way, with your two Fenwicks. Thanks to everyone else for their input.

Greg


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Post 24 Jul 2014, 06:12 • #7 
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I feel the FF807 is the best 7 weight and is the rod Fenwick designer Jimmy Green liked the best.


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Post 24 Jul 2014, 06:26 • #8 
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Thanks backing1, will have to hunt one down for sure now.


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Post 25 Jul 2014, 01:17 • #9 
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I also thought the FF 79 was Fenwicks ultimate dry fly rig, then I got to use the FF 84 this past spring and became a true believer. It was the one I reached for most when the bugs were comming off. Both are excellent rods.


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Post 22 Aug 2014, 15:06 • #10 
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backing1 wrote:
I feel the FF807 is the best 7 weight and is the rod Fenwick designer Jimmy Green liked the best.


807 is what I use for bass and walleye, busted off the last 3" with a misplaced clouser a couple of years ago, very sad.. but it still casts fine. Built it from a blank in the late 70s, to replace my first fly rod ever, a yellow (?) Fenwick that the airlines smashed..
Started out with snake guides, replaced twice since we fished a lot of stillwater without benefit of boats, had to double-haul all day, and the snakes wore out in a couple of years. Then it got the first Fuji ceramic guides which have lasted for decades, but they are small and heavy. At some point I need to replace them..

My brother's FF806 is still the best 6-wt rod I've ever cast..


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Post 22 Aug 2014, 20:28 • #11 
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I snagged a FF807 a few weeks back - wow I see what you mean. A great feeling rod with a DT7F. Feels like it will handle an 8 weight too but have not tried that yet. Thanks all!


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Post 22 Aug 2014, 22:02 • #12 
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Can't imagine Fenwick collection without a 6' rod.

Barry


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Post 22 Aug 2014, 22:20 • #13 
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You might want to get backups of your favorites :-).
I like some of the FF80's as well. Depending on the FF80 you get, it might be a 6wt or 7wt.
With your original list, I think you have things covered, but as Pearow said, "you can't stop at 5."

You are definitely missing the FF755 from your list. Much different than the FF79. I find that it is the lightest and crispest of the Fiberglass Fenwicks.

Carl


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Post 22 Aug 2014, 23:04 • #14 
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love my FF807. It's soooo beat up and I don't get 'er out nearly enough, but a damn fine rod!


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Post 23 Aug 2014, 08:50 • #15 
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I love the suggestions guys, keep them coming. For an update, I now have a FF85. Now I see what you are talking about with the "glow" blanks on the double digit Fenwicks! Beautiful! I fished a small bass lake last weekend and it worked awesome. Big poppers and streamers were cast with ease and the 3-4 lb largemouths put an nice bend in the rod. The rod hardly looks fished and had the original tube and sock for $59 on craigslist.

Though I had the FF85, no one was bidding on a FF857 on evilbay, so I put in a low bid and got it for under 20 bucks! It has been fished before for sure and no tube, but still in great shape. This rod feels great too.... maybe better than the FF85? We will see this weekend.

You guys were right! There will be no stopping at just five!


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Post 23 Aug 2014, 09:14 • #16 
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A Fenwick collection wouldn't be complete without an FF75. It's an excellent mid length 5wt and can lay down a very delicate presentation when the need arises.


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Post 23 Aug 2014, 10:53 • #17 
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Hijack warning:

One of the reason's you're never done collecting Fenwicks is that there are so many variations and it can take some time to figure them out.
The following are some of my personal observations which might help get you jumpstarted. Take it for what it's worth (about what you paid for it).

First 2-digit vs 3-digit rods.

FF75, FF755. Similar, but different.
I've started migrating away from buying 3digit fenwicks to 2-digit Fenwicks. I like the slower action, the color and the metal tubes.
However the 3-digit models are often a touch nicer fishing tools and more predictable.
The FF857, FF858, FF856-5, .... are usually right on them money with their line ratings. A FF85 is more of a mystery.

Second, the action of rods changes over time (predictability). It is harder to predict the action of the 2-digit Fenwicks based on model number. I have found an FF85 can cast a 6-8wt or a 7-9wt. Just to make matters more confusing, I don't particularly trust the numbers that were written on the rod. Personal experience has me underlining by at least one line size. I don't know how many tapers were sold under the FF85 model number, but it's more than 2. Beside the line weight, the action slightly changes (they all are nice, but sometimes one is nicer).

Even on the 3-digit Fenwicks, there is variation, but the line weighting is more consistent. Within the same model, FF755, a K-Serial number and an S-Serial number are different. Both are 5wt's but if you cast them side by side, you can usually feel the difference. (This is all subjective, so just beware)

Third, there are the multi-piece models. These usually have a slower action due to more swing weight. I like the one's I've cast, but they cost a lot more and they are heavier. The 5 piece models seem to be a class of rod unto themselves. (FF856-5 and FF858-5).

I don't have much experience in the 9' models, but I was really surprised with the FF90 casting a 7wt beautifully.

Finally there are the Irregulars. FF535, FF79, FF84, Spinflys, and more. There are some good rods, but each is different and they are outliers on the family tree.

Driftless: your first list captures a representative of almost all the standards, represented over the eras.

FF60 or FF605 (optional)
FF70 or FF705
FF75 or FF755
FF80 or FF806 (possibly ff807)
FF85 or FF857 or FF858

This is the list that I would say represents the core of Fenwick glass. If you have a FF80, you will probably like FF85 or FF75. If you have this set, I would say you have a complete set.

You added the FF79 in and it is a good choice.
You neglected the FF75 category because you have an FF756-4. At some time you might want to pick up a two piece FF755, this is a very nice rod.

Carl


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Post 23 Aug 2014, 11:40 • #18 
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Try a 3 piece FF85. A very nice 6 wt.


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Post 23 Aug 2014, 13:24 • #19 
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I love the suggestions and for the through analysis Carl. I am starting to see what you mean about line ratings. I don't have line higher than a 8 wt, but I think my FF85 (2 piece) would feel best with a 9 wt, it does not do well with a 7 wt. My FF857 loves the 7 wt, but the 8 wt starts to feel a bit heavy. Heading up North, as we say in Wisconsin, right now. All 3 of my Fenwicks will get a good workout this week.

I am getting the feeling that this Fenwick collecting is a little less addicting than crack cocaine : )!


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Post 04 Feb 2017, 20:04 • #20 
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FF70 for small streams
FF75-4 when I need a smaller packable rod
FF79 my favorite
FL-7 (same as FF837) for heavier nymph rigs


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Post 04 Feb 2017, 22:22 • #21 
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Glass Stixs wrote:
A Fenwick collection wouldn't be complete without an FF75. It's an excellent mid length 5wt and can lay down a very delicate presentation when the need arises.


The FF-75 is a great choice, get the 4 pc and it is a very versatile travel rod. It can do almost everything. When I go someplace for the first time and don't know what to expect...this is the rod I take.

I think your FF-756 covers the FF-806 need pretty well and with a 4 pc you can travel with it too.


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Post 04 Feb 2017, 23:07 • #22 
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to me if you got an FF70 and a FF79, you are set. Ultimate rods. the 837 is a sweet streamer stick too


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Post 05 Feb 2017, 09:34 • #23 
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Wow! This a blast from the past - 2014! I love it! Now I can update you all on my "Fenwick Arsenal" and thank you again for all your suggestions.

Let's see, when we left off, I had a FF756-4, FF85, and FF857. Quite quickly I sold off the FF857 on this forum. I liked the feel of the FF85 better and it had more backbone to keep the bass out of the weeds and logs. The FF857 and I just never clicked.

From there, I bought a FF806. Awesome rod. Certainly a contender for "if I could only have one rod." Tiny dries through big streamers for trout. Great smallie stick. Later, I bought a FF806-4 and sold the FF806.

I then added a FF75 and it quickly replaced the FF756-4, as my favorite Fenwick. I had to have backup for this one, and added a FF75-4, and that replaced the FF75 as my fav. Just a bit slower and sweeter for me.

Of course I had to get a FF79. That took the title (just barely) of favorite. I have been fishing the FF75-4 all this winter, the shorter length making it easier to reach up and de-ice the guides, but today, I think I will let the FF79 out to play - I miss it.

I haven't had a chance to fish it yet, but in December, I picked up a battered FF85-3 from the silent auction at our TU banquet. I have cast it in the backyard with a GPX 6wt line and it feels pretty sweet, maybe I should fish that today....

So this is list now:

FF75-4
FF75
FF756-4
FF79
FF806-4
FF85-3
FF85

Still need to add a 7 footer. I have a few modern glass rods now, but these Fenwicks still stack up well!


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Post 05 Feb 2017, 10:12 • #24 
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As you look at the 7 ft rods, choices are FF-70, FF-70-4 and FF-705. All great rods but, unlike most other rods in the Fenwick line, the FF-70 and the FF-70-4 are not the same rods with different number of pieces. The FF-70 is a classic Fenwick taper and you will recognize its casting style, the FF-705 is not far off from it, both are great. The FF-70-4, however, is different, deeper flexing and slower throughout the length of the casting stroke. Seven feet is about the shortest rod that isn't a specialist, niche rod in my opinion, but I love to fish them when obstacles or access dictate a short rod.

But, you might want to keep and eye out for an FF-605 too, everybody should have one. You know, for those niches. The later FF-605 Fenglass models from the 90s have an uplocking reel seat and I think they balance in the hand a little better than the originals from the 60s/70s.

Great feedback in this resurrected string. My personal opinion is that the FF-806 is a better 6 wt than the FF-805 is a 5 wt. In the Fenwicks, I have found variances in individual rods of the same name, probably due to production differences more that intended design changes...I say that with a qualifier that I could not get my FF-805 to make me happy until Tom sent me a spare FF-805 tip which brought that rod to life for me. Similarly, at one time I had an inventory of 4 FF-79s and when cast side by side they were each a bit different. One is just magic, and I gave two of the others to friends.


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Post 05 Feb 2017, 11:20 • #25 
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FWIW I think you have a fine selection right there.

Last year my son found an FF806 that a new friend of his had and didn't use hardly at all. He bought it for me as it represented a time in my life that we'd talked about often, post v.Nam etc and lots of memories. He thought I should have it and convinced me to cast it a few times before I possibly gave it back to him...

Wow, what a fine little rod it is! He said as much and figured I'd love it. This rod had barely, if ever, been used. That doesn't mean much to me as long as it's in good shape. He got it for around $100 or so, maybe a bit less.

It's going to make a wonderful LM and smallie rod come summertime! I can't believe how nicely it casts...

I think you're doing well as is but - it's fun to keep an eye out!!

Jeremy.


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