Great discussion happening while I was finishing up some last minute shopping.
The rods I own are all Fisher rolled blanks... other than the retro blanks, I don't think Winston ever rolled glass in-house. The 7'6" (black cork check) is the oldest and the blank is the darkest brown w/ the most prominent glass weave pattern to the blank. Whrlpool is spot on w/ the tube being an earlier version. The other rods are def. later.
When buying these, do your research and learn the details. Spotting a factory rod from custom is clear as day when you get into the details. The handwriting (usually done by Tom Morgan) and labels. Use the references above for good, close-ups of the check, wraps, labels, etc... also, original bags should be red and tubes will have either the yellow/green label above (early), a trophy cup label (SF), or the oval MT label pictured in my shots.
A true "stalker" was cataloged as such and must fit into a certain time-frame/weight designation. 3 and 4wt. rods under 8'
My 6'6" 3wt. was the recipient of some fabulous discussion on this site as well:
Duff's 6'6" "Stalker"
https://fiberglassflyrodders.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=15321I emailed Mr. Morgan about the 7'6" prior to purchase... here was his response. Note the part about the "light 5" which I agree with... it can do a 4 nicely as well.
Hello Matt,
I'm sure that it is a San Francisco Winston fiberglass made shortly after I bought Winston in 1973. Probably 1974-75. In it is a bag I had made at Gary Howells's suggestion with the top seam on the bag outside so the rod would be easier to get out. It also has my writing on it for length and line size. In the beginning we used whatever decals were around for the tubes. Typically that decal should have only been used on the bamboo rods. Soon after I designed a special decal for the tubes for the fiberglass. There were what we called light 5-weight blanks that were only good for rods 7 1/2' or under.
The blanks were made by the J. K. Fisher Company for Winston.
Hope this helps,
TomI don't have much info on the 8' 5wt. but do know it is not a "Stalker" (though some incorrectly use this phrase w/ this size rod)... it's also light in hand and one of the best 5wts i've ever touched. It's also the "newest" of my trio b/c is has the length/mass in metric which Winston started in the early 80s(?) i believe.
Here's a compilation of many resources out there to find info on the Stalkers and Winstons in general.
Key Taccata's Winston Stalker w/ catalog reference
http://blog.livedoor.jp/keytaccata/archives/50551858.htmlKey Taccata's Winston SF Stalker
http://blog.livedoor.jp/keytaccata/archives/50372104.htmlKey Taccata's Winston SF/MT Comparison
http://blog.livedoor.jp/keytaccata/archives/50387745.htmlMorgan Fiberglass History
https://www.troutrods.com/fiberglass-rod-history.htmlLastly, 1.5min of Winston glass bliss...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgQQ4LywnYQMy 7'6" and a local participant in the fun this sport affords us:
Any more information (clarification or corrections) or photos of rods are welcomed to be added... would love to see this thread grow into a discussion and display of all Winston glass, not just these 3 rods!