The bottom of the two (8 ft dry fly action) looks like a Garcia Conolon rod to me, the grip/reel seat and wrapping style are very similar to GC rods and I know they made rods for private labels, I've got one. I can't guess as to the other rod.

A GC 8 foot dry fly is likely to be a pretty nice rod, I'd start with a 5 DT and work from there.
Enjoy!
Hayden

That big rubber plug/"winding check" at the front of the grip of the "Deluxe"sure looks like a Garcia Conolon. And the plastic reel seat looks just like the one on my HI Mohawk Rainbow. I think you fellers got these pegged.

The Waco Kid

When it gets too cold for FF4GT to fish the Kern, you may learn more about the potential GC.

If a rod is ugly or messed up I will rebuild it to make it useful again. Never makes financial sense but I just enjoy doing it! If a rod works fine as is then I will leave it and fish it. So these two will probably stay as is, I have a True Temper that I am probably going to add a few more guides to and see if it improves it. I've got a couple others that may get stripped and rebuilt. The problem is most of these old rods are 6/7 weights! How many 7 weights can you fish? Oh well, just part of the addiction!

Mike

Same here. I'm rebuilding/rehabbing a few rods, that otherwise would not be fishable, but then may never get fished by myself. I have a couple wonderful 7wts and a couple gorgeous 8wts. And I only take those out 1-2 a year. But I have 4-5 proj rods that are all 7-8-9 wts. They are cheap (relatively) projects. Once my skills/experience are up in the 12-15 rod range, I can feel better about buying one of the killer glass blanks that I see here in a 4-5 wt. Until then, I'm working on rods just like these and loving the process.
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