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Post 06 Dec 2017, 17:57 • #1 
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After too many years I'm finally going to build out an old Fisher glass blank I've been hanging onto.

I've got the guides, seat, silk, selected. I've found a grip that I like but not sure the length that it should be. Looking at a a Winston catalog of the same vintage, there is no mention as to the grip length. I'd hate to finish this thing and find I put too short a grip on it and likewise one too long. Actually, longer would be better than shorter as the hand can adjust to a longer while a shorter grip, unless required. never seems to work out.

Any suggestions? Is there a formula?

Thanks in advance!!!

Dave


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Post 06 Dec 2017, 18:07 • #2 
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How long is the rod?


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Post 06 Dec 2017, 18:10 • #3 
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I'm sorry.... 7' 4/5 weight....


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Post 06 Dec 2017, 18:19 • #4 
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Is there a certain style of grip you would like to put on the rod?


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Post 06 Dec 2017, 20:31 • #5 
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I just got Proofs 5.75" Torpedo grip. I really like it, I think that would go great on your blank.


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Post 06 Dec 2017, 21:40 • #6 
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Personally, I put a grip of no more than 5 to 5 1/2 inches on a rod of 7ft or less.


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Post 06 Dec 2017, 21:53 • #7 
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It's a matter of personal preference, of course. I have a hard time with short grips. My minimum length is 6", which is exactly what I'd put on that rod.


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Post 06 Dec 2017, 22:16 • #8 
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imo anything less than 5.5" is too short. on a 7' i use a 5.75" to 6" grip. no rule of thumb (no pun intended) it all depends on what you prefer, the size of your hand, and whether you like to move up, or down on the grip. finally, keep in mind the proportions of the finished rod-- simply put, shorter rods get shorter grips.


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Post 06 Dec 2017, 22:53 • #9 
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I have a factory 7.5 ft fisher graphite, and to be honest the grip and reel seat are completely functional but not very decorative. Down-locking reel seat with a close to cylindrical cigar grip

Here are the dimensions.

1/4" winding check/hosel
6&1/4" grip
4&1/4" reel seat

I find this grip is a bit long. If you have a down-locking reel seat, you can move your hand back down onto the reel seat some. I find I do this a lot with shorter rods.


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Post 07 Dec 2017, 09:25 • #10 
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5.5" to 6" in my opinion, though if you're going to do a 6" grip, I'd chop the reel seat down a bit.


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Post 07 Dec 2017, 10:21 • #11 
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it sort of depends upon the grip shape, to a certain extent.

Cigars can work well down to 5.0"
Half/Full wells probably need 5.5"-6.0"

Although, I've done a few very subtly-shaped half-wells on some short rods at 5.0"-5.5"
and they fit and feel great.

Aside from shortening grip length for 7' and shorter rods,
I also make these grips thinner than I would a longer rod.
(I'll go .750"-.800" max girth on a short grip, .850"-.900" on longer ones...)
It just feels right, for short and accurate casting distances

Best way to figure out how to shape and size your custom build grips,
is to take some calipers to other rods you own that you really like.


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Post 07 Dec 2017, 13:38 • #12 
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The size of your hand is also important to factor in. Easy to forget.


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Post 07 Dec 2017, 15:41 • #13 
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For a 7 foot rod, proportion dictates short and slender, comfort and function call for a bit longer and thicker. Which is more important to you? If you're building the rod for yourself, do whatever you like based on your experience with other grips. If you think you might want to sell the rod at some point, don't go to either extreme.


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Post 08 Dec 2017, 17:06 • #14 
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I start with the length of the reel seat I need to fit the reel or reels I will use on the rod. In my experience, the combination of reel seat and grip shouldn't be longer than 10" to look ok. For a rod that length I would go with a 6" grip, but that depends on the size of your hand. Utility should come first and aesthetics second. Not that look is unimportant, but if it feels right, it will get fished and not just be something to put up with. The best approach is to get your hands on a 6 to 7-inch preformed grip and see if shorter would still be comfortable or if you do need the whole 6 inches.


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Post 09 Dec 2017, 16:48 • #15 
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I would guess that 6" western or cigar was the norm in Winston form or Fisher. That's a good default. It depends a little on the reel seat length. At least I want the combination to put my thumb where the rod feels just right on the forecast and then relaxes just right onto my index finger as the line settles. I also want a little room to move up and down the grip for other fishing motions or just a change of position for comfort. So I mock up a grip from cork rings and feel my way to the best length and shape. If need be, the length of the reel seat can be reduced by cutting its barrel, making sure there is still enough to loosen the locking ring far enough to allow clearance for the longest foot of reels you would use on the rod. Insert style seats can be mounted at "shorter" dimensions as well, again, leaving adequate clearance. Some rods will feel like they want a longer grip, others shorter. It is quite likely the 7 footer might feel good to many users with a grip as "short as 5" Shorter than that, I think you would have too much flex in the butt ahead of the hand--but that, too, is a personal preference in response to the feel of the blank.


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Post 10 Dec 2017, 14:00 • #16 
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This is pretty much what I have used for the last 30 years on bamboo , same holds true for glass IMHO. Yes, 90% is for aesthetics because I despise the appearance of a large grip on a small rod.
5' - 6' rod 4 1/2" grip
6 1/2' - 7' rod 5"
7 1/2' rod 5 1/2"
8' rod 6"
8 1/2' - 9' rod 6 1/2"- 7"
Short rod short grip, long rod all grip!


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