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Post 19 Sep 2017, 20:35 • #1 
Sport
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I probably stink at using the search, but I haven't turned up any results that helped. I want a classic reel that will balance well on my 693 Echo. I have Rio Intouch WF3F that I will be using. The reel will be a line holder, no need to break the bank. I'd like to pick up a cheap but sturdy clicker off the auction site, I just need some help because I don't know anything about the sizes and weights of the classic reels. I don't really want one of the tin can reels unless everthing else will be too heavy.

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Post 19 Sep 2017, 21:58 • #2 
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I am a big fan of the Medalist 1492 - it is right hand wind only so that may change your mind. Weighs about 3.4 oz.


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Post 19 Sep 2017, 22:31 • #3 
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Not cheap, but what you're looking for is an Orvis (by Hardy) CFO II which weighs exactly 2.5 ounces and really puts a vintage vibe on modern glass. I have a Rio Gold WF3WT on mine on an Orvis Superfine glass 7' 3 wt and the balance is perfect. Over three ounces on a shorter rod with an uplocking seat is going to be too heavy in my opinion. I picked up the reel for around $230 on eBay and a spare spool for $65. If you don't shoot for NOS condition then you can definitely find one in the low $200s and the values appear to be rising.


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Post 20 Sep 2017, 05:44 • #4 
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A contemporary reel, but "vintage" in design characteristics:

https://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/72813?p ... recsbottom

A simple Martin "tuna can" model (63, 63 SS) would do the trick for $30 or less, or the upscale, very sweet MG3 or MG3SS which sometimes sell for over $100.

I have several of each, but when I can't run across one in one of my drawers or tackle sacks, or I come upon my Pocket Water first, it will be just as good, lacking only in the charming associations I have over decades of use of lightweight Martins. But you don't need the associations and could just as well make your own with the Bean's reel.


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Post 20 Sep 2017, 05:46 • #5 
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If you want a little heavier reel, try an Airex Ablette 370, one of my favorite small reels.


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Post 20 Sep 2017, 05:54 • #6 
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Other light click/pawl reels to consider --- a Ryobi 255MG, and a JA Forbes Magnesium. Both very light -- I think even lighter than the CFO, and less expensive. Also, a Martin MC-34. I have one of these on a 6.5' 4 wt glass rod and it balances nicely. The Martin MC-series IMO are under the radar bargains. Earlier ones were made in USA with later production out of Japan or Korea I believe.


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Post 20 Sep 2017, 06:00 • #7 
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Absolutely on the other Martins picketpin mentioned. I have a little pile of those, too, in several sizes. The USA made "classic" in the small size is often very inexpensive used. The Beans is a get-it-new, get-it-now alternative of similar type.


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Post 20 Sep 2017, 06:18 • #8 
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MG-3, yes, M61,2,3 no - they have a huge plate of steel that makes them not so lightweight.
The lightest are JAF Avon, and the highest-quality, the parts came off the line at JW Young.
Contact ebay seller fishpersonkev to see what stock he has remaining.
If you fish WF3, you can get by with a 2-1/2" JAF.
The Aerial is also a very nice reel, this is a 3" matched with a Fisher combo rod
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Post 20 Sep 2017, 07:10 • #9 
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If you need just a line holder the ocean city 35 is plentiful light and has that cool round line gard. The 35 would fit a 3wf and some backing. There are 8 listed on the bay right now, most under $25 some in fairly decent shape.


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Post 20 Sep 2017, 13:47 • #10 
Sport
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Thanks for the info and replies. I'd love to have a CFO II, but I'd rather use the extra $$$ on reels that will be more than just line holders. I like the simple vintage look of the OC35 & 36's. I assume the 36 is a little larger? Also, will check out some of the other reels mentioned. How much should a 1492 in good shape run? Does it matter which yr production? I think I would buy a DA or earlier USA made reel if I go with one of these. If it was a little heavy, I could use it on a 4wt.


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Post 20 Sep 2017, 16:30 • #11 
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For the money, the LL Bean Pocketwater is hard to beat. Check its weight against the others and I think you would like it. I have one and it balances a 6'11" 3wt McFarland just fine.


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Post 20 Sep 2017, 17:25 • #12 
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any of the hardy clones in smaller sizes are light and pretty cool little reels.but the ones in very good shape are about the same price of the pocket water.i like the ec10 eagle claw and the cabelas cahill look good on my 7foot phillipson and fenwick.some of the older daiwas are good reels but a bit on the noisy side and are an aluminum color.


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Post 21 Sep 2017, 06:06 • #13 
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if it's older vintage blue collar made in USA you're after, there are more... look for a South Bend Oreno #1165, Shakespeare Russell 1894, or a Meisselbach Rainbow #627 -- all inexpensive, classic looks "lineholders" from the 30s-40s. i will put up pics when i get back. happy hunting, let us know what you get!


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Post 21 Sep 2017, 09:37 • #14 
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Hedden daisy 300.........aurelio


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Post 21 Sep 2017, 20:29 • #15 
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another good choice AC.the ec 10 is basically the same reel only gold spool brown body.i just like the color with phillipsons i have.look good on a fenwick too.i have 2 heddon 320s and a zebco z78.just bigger versions of the japanese hardy knock offs.the cabela's cahill has the same drag system but seems built a little better.i hear hardy pawls and springs is a good upgrade to these reels


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Post 22 Sep 2017, 05:56 • #16 
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there's a whole lot of tanks that have made the list.

Think light - a too heavy reel will waste your rod


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Post 22 Sep 2017, 09:44 • #17 
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If you want classic and inexpensive, go to EBay and search on skeleton reel and Pfluger Progress. You'll have choices, you'll be able to get one under $15.00 and they are classic and kinda cool looking.

Two of my 3 weight lines are on such, a Union Hardware with just enough click left to prevent backlash and an unknown 80 yard that is pretty smooth. Only once in a great while do I put a fish on the reel with my 3 weights, and that's usually because I can, not because the fish needs it.

Whatever you settle on, enjoy it!


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Post 22 Sep 2017, 13:32 • #18 
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jhuskey wrote:
I am a big fan of the Medalist 1492 - it is right hand wind only so that may change your mind. Weighs about 3.4 oz.


Old age must be creeping up on me - 4.3 oz. lined with backing and a WF4F.

I love my tanks!

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Unlined 1492

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Post 22 Sep 2017, 14:30 • #19 
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bulldog1935 wrote:
there's a whole lot of tanks that have made the list.

Think light - a too heavy reel will waste your rod

Agree. Especially this little rod. Unfortunately, I don't know enough to determine which ones mentioned are the tanks. :)


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Post 22 Sep 2017, 18:47 • #20 
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eagle24, what does your Echo 693 3 wt. weigh?


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Post 22 Sep 2017, 20:51 • #21 
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Lots of people have listed weights. I'd go 2.5 oz or 3 oz at most.


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Post 23 Sep 2017, 09:30 • #22 
Sport
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jhuskey wrote:
eagle24, what does your Echo 693 3 wt. weigh?

I haven't weighed it, but Echo specs it at 2.6 oz.


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Post 23 Sep 2017, 09:40 • #23 
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4 ounces loaded should be your absolute upper limit, and less is better.
With more weight you dampen out the feel of the rod.
With short rods, tip-heavy is never a disadvantage, and generally improves feel.

When you get to big rods, tip-heavy can be a pain in the elbow.


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Post 23 Sep 2017, 15:17 • #24 
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I would think a Daiwa 730 would be a nice cheap option. I put one on my 9' 4wt and it was far too light, switched to a Daiwa 706 and now it's much better. Keeping the little 730 for when I get a shorter/lighter rod.


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Post 23 Sep 2017, 22:07 • #25 
Sport
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Orvis CFO II with WF3Wt Rio Gold and no backing, though you could add a little if you had the need. You need this reel.

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