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Non clicking reels
Post 13 Sep 2017, 22:17 • #1 
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I have several ocean city 76 77 silent drag reels from the 50's & 60's and it got me wondering what other classic reels were made with a non clicking mode and silent drag system.


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Re: Non clicking reels
Post 14 Sep 2017, 05:59 • #2 
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Hardy and Young also made silent check reels.
On the inside, a brass drum replaced the drag gear. The external knob tensioned a wool pad against the drum.

Wayne has some examples of prewar Young reels using that silent drag.
The Silent Club is listed in the '36 Alex Martin catalog (and not in '35)
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Young pattern 2a was offered with a centre brake drag, and "optional" click pawl - likely where Ocean City got the idea.
Of course the OS Exchequer was the classiest, using Hoffmann aircraft control system ball bearings, but the same pattern was also made simpler, sold as the OS Zefer and Allcocks Fraser, and Cummings sold quite a few of these.
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Re: Non clicking reels
Post 14 Sep 2017, 06:33 • #3 
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The 1938 patent Medalist was the most innovative drum brake ever.
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The ratchet mechanism clicks, particularly loud on a One Pfoot part upgrade, but they don't make significant noise in pay.

The Martin wedding-cake disc drag on the M72 and other models is completely silent if you disengage the jaw-chattering clicker.
The Martin M64 uses the jaw-chattering clicker, which can be disengaged, and a center brake very similar to the Ocean City.

At the other end, the Hardy Hydra is the loudest reel ever - the casting rings like a bell, and mine going off has turned heads like the Exorcist a quarter-mile downriver
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Post 14 Sep 2017, 06:35 • #4 
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mine going off has turned heads like the Exorcist a quarter-mile downriver


If you were in Texas at the time they were probably just looking for the gun.


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Post 14 Sep 2017, 07:00 • #5 
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no, our guns are really loud
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Post 14 Sep 2017, 11:39 • #6 
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I just purchased two Olympic reels of the same basic design. one is a Berkley 510 and the other is unbranded with the foot stamped Japan. I don't have them in hand yet so no photos until they come. I was noticing that both of these have tool marks on the face of the spool so Q&A was not that high a priority when they were made.
Most of these would have been manufactured and sold at very low profit margins though.


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Post 14 Sep 2017, 12:11 • #7 
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the Berkley 510 was my first fly reel (and is the OC clone), and I will just say I didn't like it as much as my 2nd fly reel, Martin 67N marked as Orvis 1915 and sold in a Green River combo with a Fullflex A glass rod.


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Post 14 Sep 2017, 12:41 • #8 
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I had a 1980s vintage Orvist Madison IV that was a non-click...well, that was after several Atlantic salmon wore the teeth off it.


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Post 14 Sep 2017, 15:24 • #9 
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bulldog1935 wrote:
Atlantic salmon wore the teeth off it.


Cheaters never prosper. :)

I'm not expecting either of these to be my favorite but at less than $15 each delivered to my door why not.
The first rod I ever bought for myself came from the zebco store in Stroud Oklahoma. Included was a Martin reel that was so bad I can't bring myself to purchase one. I know the USA made reels of the past aren't the same but then again I'm not always a rational creature.


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Post 14 Sep 2017, 16:28 • #10 
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hey wait a minute, I never wrote that


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Post 14 Sep 2017, 18:19 • #11 
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Sorry Bulldog I wonder how I managed that.


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Post 14 Sep 2017, 18:28 • #12 
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Colston Newton wrote:
Atlantic salmon wore the teeth off it.


The salmon giveth and taketh away. You got him but he got you.
Creating silent check reels with slave fish labor is still cheating though. :lol


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Post 15 Sep 2017, 06:11 • #13 
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Johnson Magnetic
Hardy Silent Check
Ross R-series


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Re: Non clicking reels
Post 16 Sep 2017, 12:01 • #14 
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Ocean City made several more variations---1) Viscoy 2) a J C Higgins Model 47 C

Other mfg:
Arnold Bivans---an unique reel
Gyro model 52 & 53 (sort of a Ocean City knockoff)---I am not sure on this I think it is Japanese made by Jana


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Post 16 Sep 2017, 20:53 • #15 
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Thanks for the information in the ocean city knockoffs I've recently seen two Heddons.


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Post 17 Sep 2017, 22:07 • #16 
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On the Medalists could you remove the spool cover and drop out the pin that hits the ratchet and make it silent? (Sorry don't recall name of pin)

Don't want to take one apart to check since I'm prone to drop and lose parts.

Barry


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Post 17 Sep 2017, 22:34 • #17 
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As to the medalist not that I could ever figure out. I only have two and they were both made over seas. I suppose it's possible on an earlier version. I seem to recall a discussion about this and think probably not.


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Post 17 Sep 2017, 23:37 • #18 
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Had to try it, your right, won't work. Reel just free spools.

Barry


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Post 18 Sep 2017, 11:32 • #19 
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bulldog1935 wrote:
no, our guns are really loud
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Ow, just looking at the photo makes my shoulder sore …


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Post 18 Sep 2017, 12:20 • #20 
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something that is always fun about researching Brit reels, and also generally different from US sporting goods makers:
Pretty much all the Brit tackle merchants (a noted exception is Sharpes of Aberdeen, founded in 1920)...
...began as gunmakers or sporting arms purveyors long before they sold fishing tackle.
When you google these old names, e.g. Modarcom (modern arms company) you find many more links in firearms history than tackle history, and the dates you find become just as useful.


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Post 04 Oct 2017, 10:04 • #21 
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In my first reply I left off Ocean City 36, 35, 37, 305, and 306.
Gary


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Post 04 Oct 2017, 17:12 • #22 
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Thanks Gary
I rediscovered these myself and have started a collection of the larger size.


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Post 10 Oct 2017, 15:59 • #23 
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BD- what about the zero hour bomb co?


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Post 10 Oct 2017, 21:14 • #24 
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What does zebco have to do with this.


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