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Post 09 Nov 2015, 20:20 • #51 
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I would also like to know how thin these are. If they are as close to as thin as Sylk lines, then I would be far more likely to purchase one. Nothing worse than having a 3wt line that is as thick as some of the 5wt lines I have.


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Post 09 Nov 2015, 22:39 • #52 
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I don't have much experience with Sylk but these lines are thinner than average which is a strong point for me and part of why I like them so much.


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Post 09 Nov 2015, 23:08 • #53 
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Hi guys,

I'm going to the local fly shop tomorrow and if they have a Sylk line I'll mike it and the same size in a 406 to get a comparative diameter of both lines.

Tom


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Post 10 Nov 2015, 02:32 • #54 
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Trouts wrote:
Nothing worse than having a 3wt line that is as thick as some of the 5wt lines I have.

Especially Rio lines are much thicker than SA (or made by SA) lines.


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Post 10 Nov 2015, 09:58 • #55 
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Rio seems to have gone all in on lines for the modern faster graphite rods. They make some good lines, but they are mostly thicker/up-weighted lines to load modern rods. As mentioned above I fish the 406 WF5 on my circa '92 8' Walton Powell Hexagraph and it's superb. I believe the 406 lines are certainly a thinner profile than the Cortland 444 lines which I also like.


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Post 10 Nov 2015, 12:26 • #56 
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I have been fishing the 406 wf 3wt on my Ijuin 663 and i have to say it is a match made in heaven! I fished my Ijuin 663 all last year with a Rio Gold wf 3 line and thought that was a pretty good match, but i am really glad I gave the 406 a try.

I am a big fan and will be buying 406 lines in every weight.

Wes


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Post 10 Nov 2015, 13:23 • #57 
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Probably the slower/less powerful glass rod doesn't need to waste its (in)flexing momentum fighting the air resistance of the thicker fly lines.

Just have too many new regular lines which needs to be used up. But in the future I'll certainly try the 406 lines. Hope the company stays in business until I'm ready!


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Post 10 Nov 2015, 18:22 • #58 
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tabrods wrote:
Hi guys,

I'm going to the local fly shop tomorrow and if they have a Sylk line I'll mike it and the same size in a 406 to get a comparative diameter of both lines.

Tom


Thanks Tom, I really appreciate it. This sort of customer service is not something I would expect from the larger fly line companies.


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Post 10 Nov 2015, 19:12 • #59 
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RMorrison - Rio actually just came out with a glass and slower graphite rods line specific, called Light Line taper and is really nice. It kind of reminds me of the old S.A. XPS. I would love to know if anyone else has tried the new Rio Light Line taper for classic graphite and glass. You can find this Rio line in their specialty lines section.

Wes


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Post 10 Nov 2015, 23:24 • #60 
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Hi guys,

Well here's the results based on a DT5 line: Sylk has a 0.047" diameter body and a 406 has a 0.043" diameter body. Also the tip on the Sylk is 0.035" diameter and the 406 has a 0.029" diameter tip.

While the difference of 0.04" in the body may not seem like a lot the 406 is 10% smaller in the body and almost 20% smaller in the tip. A side by side comparison of the Sylk and a 406 line shows that a size difference is noticeable.

Trouts, this was no trouble at all. The members of this Forum have been very good to us and I'd like to return the favor anyway I can.

Tom


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Post 11 Nov 2015, 03:55 • #61 
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I like the results Tom! :)

Sylk has some problems with stickiness which I assume is no problem with 406.

How about floating? Less diameter also means less area to put the needed air bubbles on the outer material?


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Post 11 Nov 2015, 09:35 • #62 
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When sylk first came out I purchased three lines, one of them was sticky, I sent it back and received and immediate replacement and have not experienced that problem since, maybe a bad batch. I also don't believe any longer that they are underweight and they seem to work fine with rods designated for these weights. Perhaps they are weighted correctly after all.

Tom, thanks for the update on your lines. You have quite a bit of positive feedback by user's of them.

I agree on some of the Rio lines, I had and LT in DT configuration and it seemed quite large in diameter. The Rio Gold though is a really nice line on most rods I have tried it on.


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Post 11 Nov 2015, 10:09 • #63 
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ibookje wrote:
Probably the slower/less powerful glass rod doesn't need to waste its (in)flexing momentum fighting the air resistance of the thicker fly lines.

Just have too many new regular lines which needs to be used up. But in the future I'll certainly try the 406 lines. Hope the company stays in business until I'm ready!


Rather than hope, pick up a line and help make sure they do ok. It's always nice to support the smaller operators like Tom who have a real passion for what they do...


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Post 11 Nov 2015, 11:10 • #64 
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ibookje wrote:
I like the results Tom! :)

Sylk has some problems with stickiness which I assume is no problem with 406.

How about floating? Less diameter also means less area to put the needed air bubbles on the outer material?


Yup had the same problem with the Sylk lines which is one of the reasons I started 406 Fly Lines. The 406 lines float really well and while exact details of construction are proprietory the coating infused in the line has a lot to do with floating characteristics.

Also wanted to let you know that now that the lines are perfected we have no intention of changing them so we can sell you a new and improved version next year. Nothing bugged me more than to have a company tell me that the new line I just paid full price for has been improved with a new XYZ coating and I should buy it and toss the old one out. Our intention was always to provide a top end line for a reasonable price that doesn't go out of style. While lines change year to year there's always a few that stand the test of time and we'd like to be one of those.

Tom


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Post 12 Nov 2015, 20:58 • #65 
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Tom...I've got to get some of your lines! Need more flies:)


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Post 13 Nov 2015, 14:06 • #66 
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Brandon, you will dig the lines. I have the wf4 on my Barclay 64p. A perfect match for what I need. I think what I really like is that the line is soooo supple. None of that excessive coiling nonsense. I think you should try it on your Yomogi 3wt fer sure. I will probably pull the trigger on a 6wt. For which rod though I am uncertain.


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Post 13 Nov 2015, 14:49 • #67 
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yeah I think im gonna get chris to send me at least a 3wt and maybe a 4wt for my echo. the line I have on it now is too much!


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Post 19 Jan 2016, 20:22 • #68 
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I have been fishing 406 DT3WT on my Injuin Yomogi 7033....love it ...LOVE IT. Very great match. Can lay out some very delicate presentations and have been able to land some pretty spooky trout. :D


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Post 19 Jan 2016, 21:32 • #69 
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Honkus,

welcome to the Forum and thanks for the great review!

Tom
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Post 21 Jan 2016, 07:25 • #70 
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Yep, good stuff...have a DT5 on my Barclay 5...like they were made for each other.


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Post 25 Jan 2016, 00:50 • #71 
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Just throwing this out there - if anyone has a line they are not going to try.. I am ready and willing to try it out and report back.

I hear nothing but good things..


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Post 17 Feb 2016, 22:01 • #72 
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How well do you think these lines would work on faster glass? I'm finishing up an Epic 476 build and still thinking about line options.


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Post 18 Feb 2016, 09:36 • #73 
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I have just returned from a winter trip. The main emphasis was Steelhead fishing and a dog, but on my return I did fish one afternoon on the Upper Sac with a 406 DT 5wt. The line was all and everything I wanted in a line, it performed wonderfully with small dries and soft hackles(didn't try anything else). It's performance is very similar to my English Master lines but without the "noise", because of their smooth finish. I plan to purchase more 406 lines in the upcoming season. GlacierRambler, I fish fairly fast classic Winston glass with these, not modern glass rods.

As an aside on the return a new puppy was acquired. This was the "reason" for stopping at a secluded safe area, along the river, to let the dog out and "exercise" before getting back on the road home. I've got a very understanding wife, :eek. Thankfully she loves the out doors.
Respectfully rvreclus


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Post 18 Feb 2016, 10:05 • #74 
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rvreclus, you can't mention a new pup and not show photos.


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Post 21 Feb 2016, 20:44 • #75 
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rvreclus, you can't mention a new pup and not show photos.


Hear, hear.

I'm curious about others opinions as well. I'm always interested in supporting local businesses.


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