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Post 10 Nov 2018, 15:03 • #1 
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Up front, no kayaks, and a vacation for the extended family in Arroyo City. My dad's 89 now, hasn't been fishing in 3 years, so this trip was overdue. For 9 years in a row, over late 80s to mid- 90s, my follks would rent a house or condo for the month of October or November somewhere between Key Allegro and S. Padre.
Back then, $1100 would get the full month in a nice place with 3 or 4 bedrooms, and a dock / boat slip.
My dad would be out in his boat every morning, with or without a companion, but extended family and friends did our best to keep him in fishing company. (He also needed to remember how much work this is, because he's been threatening to do S Padre for a month - solo.)

Rent-wise, Arroyo City is the best deal on the coast, with a range of boys-only fishing shacks to really nice places where you want to take your sister, wife and mother.
The house we rented is owned by former Green Island fly fishing guide Spencer Bell, who now lives and guides in CO.
With any Arroyo trip, boat runs to Laguna Madre are secondary to the spectacular dock fishing into the 40' deep navigation channel.
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Keep in mind, this trip was a bit of reminiscing, catching up, and focused fish slaying. Fresh fillets from ice bowl for family meals of fabulous fish tacos and fried feast with hush puppies - the ladies are really good at this part. Also, my mom's goal is to stock her freezer - there are obviously cheaper and smarter ways to do that - but none other quite so fun.
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The place we had was big enough for the extended family, had a good dock and boat lift. Anyone needing space can retreat to the palapa above the boat dock.
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This was the overdue first time I've fished with my BIL. He grew up with a family cabin in Flour Bluff, he and his brother have bought guide time from Louisiana to Slow Ride in AP, and I've even fished with my nephew from the Flour Bluff cabin.
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We had new moon, first-light low tides, prevailing SE wind, mid-70s to pushing 90 for the entire week. The north wind just hit yesterday morning while I was chugging at Adolph Tomae Park launch waiting for my dad to back in the trailer.

The Bays - We were off like a herd of turtles every morning, getting the boat out as late as 9a after a late breakfast, though made 7a one morning. We covered a lot of water from Oilfield Flat (marker 39) to marker 109 and beyond, we also fished Peyton Bay (and I accidentally turned into Rattlesnake Bay one day, but we got the boat out).
The flooding up the coast is affecting the tides this far south, driven by the gulf stream currents and making its way down the Laguna and through the cuts. I've never seen Oilfield flat 3' deep at low tide. We also had brutal winds as the morning pushed into afternoon, making siesta an important part of the day.
Many little trout, a few rats, and I got one 22" slot red on Oilfield.
Another Spin noteworthy, the entire week on the bays, I only fished my Lami Classic Glass and Lew's BB-25SW.
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We found the just-right wind respite, exactly the right color water, grass and sand holes, and countless tourist trout at Green Island. My BIL and I had a blast catching them on TSL grasswalkers - he learned to use my favorite lure this trip.
Pink was my color for early morning light and in murky Peyton Bay, I switched to Birthday Suit for high sun and the slightly off-color seam we found on the west side of Green island. (The east side of Green island is where you want to wade with a fly rod.) My BIL fell in love fishing Golden Roach, and he and Dad also caught fish on Chicken on a Chain.
I was totally happy releasing a dozen 14" trout every morning in the bay, because I had already limited-out by 5:15 every morning at the dock.
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Just said again, I got up alone every morning to fish the dock and had a limit of 16" to 18" specs every morning by 5:15 (that's about when the others would get up and try their luck). By mid week, I was waking up with sore hands every morning from filleting all of mine and my dad's fish.
FWIW, I only filleted 3 female trout the entire week - the rest were males.
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The first morning I counted, switched between fly rod and lures, and released 40 fish to get my limit. Over the week, I got better at getting my lure down to bypass the nursery trout, sitting on the dock to watch the fish sign and focus-cast to the schoolies as they moved in and out of the lights, so I would get my limit in 15 or so casts.
Changing up was everything. On the fly rod I fished small whistlers and high-ties. For the spinning rods, I caught schoolies on Bone Diamond TSL grasswalker, blue Wildeye shad, spec rigs, and a long-thin Westin minnow in silver.
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Both after sunset and before first light, the quality of the dock fishing varied from walking on fish, visible dozen schoolies swimming by the dock, to dead-calm shy stealth fish - though they were there the whole time - they just went deep and got shy. Other than the next dock light, there was nowhere else for them to go at a new moon.
My BIL hit his good run after the rest of us had retired one evening. My dad hit one great walking on fish run, right at sunset, caught several schoolies and his first ever snook, measured 18". I got the same size snook to the dock right behind him - in fact we had two on the dock - but had put the lens cap on the camera before I sat it down, and the photo my dad took of me holding snook just didn't come out.
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It was a week of misses for me. Missed a hook set on my big sow trout at Green Island.
Yesterday morning, very last morning on the dock - Dad was up fishing with me - I broke off my lifetime snook.
I saw him right under my nose, creeping past our dock to the next dark dock - easily 28"-30". When he began his slashes in the dark, I threw over a blue wildeye shad, which he instantly sucked in, but would break me off. Thought I had my drag set just right from many running specs, but a giant charging snook is something else - especially before coffee. He was still feeding and I tried a few more casts, but couldn't turn him again.
Still, probably best in this crowd to let the big ones get away - they wouldn't understand releasing the meat on a trophy fish.
Of course no regrets, and I'm going back next year for that snook.
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Post 10 Nov 2018, 19:58 • #2 
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A very special trip. Thanks for showing!


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Post 10 Nov 2018, 21:59 • #3 
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Excellent. Love eating seatrout.


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Post 11 Nov 2018, 00:42 • #4 
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I had the last two fillets out of the ice water today for fish tacos. Seasoned with chile lime, sauteed in garlic butter, rolled in fresh corn tortilla with pico de gallo. I let my mom freeze the rest, but I'm never interested in frozen fish.

and while I'm at it, more fun photos
This heron ruled our dock, and I asked permission to board a few afternoons shuttling gear from the boat.
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palapa respite
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view down the Arroyo
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another good sunset
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I didn't get a photo, but the prettiest specs were at Green island, with deep greens and blues.
Good lighting on this dock photo, and my tiny whistler in the fish's lip.
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Post 12 Nov 2018, 07:32 • #5 
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Looks like a marvelous spot. I'll be heading for S. FL for Feb. Go out on the drift boats out of Riviera Bch marina for snapper. Last year it was mostly yellow tails, which are smaller but delicious eating. Thanks for sharing.


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Post 13 Nov 2018, 11:51 • #6 
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Where we were fishing lies south of Miami, on a latitude only about 40 mi north of Key West.
Enjoy and give us a FL report.

Very Blessed to be able to take my 89-y-o dad out on an adventure like this - of course he's obviously not feeble.
Hope I've lived as well when I get there.

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Something else to note - every place I mention blue wildeye shad for fishing in the dark, I'm actually fishing the Japanese copy of this lure - Tsunami SS3- color Blue Back
These come in a 6-pack (instead of 3 for the same price)
https://www.tackledirect.com/tsunami-ss ... -lure.html
I fished through 6 last week - the specs tore them up - and just ordered a dozen for next trip...
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anyone who's never fished Trout Support Lure, you need to try these - they're neutral density and dog-walk with any retrieve.
Specifically, they stay in the zone with slow retrieve, which you can't do with a weighted lure. They suspend like fishing a slime line on a fly rod, but they cast a lot farther, and you can't dog-walk a fly rod.
Redfish in skinny water go crazy over them.
https://troutsupport.com/product/trout-support-lure/
I will admit Tobin keeps me supplied in these lures, but our last contact right after I wrote a review on his website, I thanked Tobin for making this lure, because I've never had so much fun fishing.
Fish follow and try to eat this lure over and over until they finally get it eaten - I've never fished anything like it.
Fish absolutely do not spit this lure, but you can pull it out of their mouth trying to set it. My best set technique on little trout last week was to walk the fish with the lure in its mouth until the fish makes his first turn, and then I set it. Tobin didn't like that idea, but every fish came to the boat with a lip hook and the lure outside its mouth.
Trout follow forever and injure their prey with their canines before they eat it. Redfish are different - they eat solid.


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Post 14 Nov 2018, 07:54 • #7 
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If anyone has done the math here, the fishing was epic, but even that was secondary - Tomah got it.
Klingon's escape the winter plans also sound good to me.

My 89-y-o dad needed this trip on many levels - as did the family.
For the first time in 40 years, my BIL gets me. In big family holiday gatherings, I've sat and listened to him and his brother talk about their kayak desires, and if I tried to add, I could have been a vapor. I think he was surprised to recognize we swallow many of the same gripes about our would-be matriarch - all these years he must have thought I was on her side. From our fishing time 20 years ago, my nephew knew I was on his side. Now when I visit my sister's house, we'll share common ground.
Anyone who's ever followed me on a fishing trip wants to do it again - I'm a pretty good captain, guys.

I'm also a little disappointed in the forum that none of you guys offered fishing with Dad nostalgia.


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Post 14 Nov 2018, 12:29 • #8 
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Fun trip, looks like a fulfilling one on a few levels. Nice pictures.


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Post 14 Nov 2018, 14:39 • #9 
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What a great trip.My dad never took me fishing or hunting he just took me and my brother to the local bar were he would drink a lot of stag beer and we all played bocce on the courts there.......Aurelio


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Post 14 Nov 2018, 15:33 • #10 
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made me laugh Aurelio. Back in the 80s, kept a fishing journal - it began with, I've been trying to teach my dad to fish since I was 12.


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Post 14 Nov 2018, 19:34 • #11 
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Damn nice trip and memories. I'm happy you have the dad time. Special.


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Post 30 Nov 2018, 10:17 • #12 
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Adding this post for a couple of reasons. First, it charts our power boat navigation on this trip.
I figured a way to save the NOAA chart-view gif as a jpeg.
The house is right where the natural arroyo and ship channel diverge to opposite ends of Peyton Bay.
Marker 109 flounder hole is the 3' depth east of the ICW at the north end of the chart.
South of Horse Island is Rattlesnake Bay.
Oilfield flat (Marker 39) is east of the ICW at the south end of the chart.
And for low tides this trip, add a foot to everything on the chart.

You can chase it down on texmaps to find all the scoop - http://www.texmaps.com/go/texas-fishing.html
On Texmaps, the seagrass overlay will show you the S. Padre grassline - a good place to hunt big specs - we didn't make it this trip - but in closer, Rattlesnake Bay is also good big spec water.
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All those roads through the Laguna Atascosa NWR sure look inviting - Red Head Bluff, Realitos Point.
I tried e-mailing to ask if there was access to launch a kayak, but the e-mail link was aimed to a defunct account and bounced. Will eventually call to ask again.
Though I did find this on the NWR website - Bayside Dr. is closed for construction until early 2019
https://www.fws.gov/refuge/Laguna_Atasc ... Drive.html

From what I learned on the Laguna Atascosa NWR website, it looks like they closed the roads to vehicle traffic after a pair of ocelots were struck and killed there in 2012. They've been working to make the roads safe for ocelots by giving them specially designed culvert crossings so they don't have to cross on the pavement. The roads in the NWR are reported to open up again early next year. If so, Arroyo will become a killer kayak destination, by giving us drive-up access to Rattlesnake Bay at Realitos and Red Head Cove.
It might even be possible to launch at North Point for a one-mile paddle to Green Island. The east side of Green Island is some of the best skinny-water wading and sight fishing on the planet, comparable to the San Jose barrier island lakes.

55 of these cats have been counted in S. Texas (we saw some footprints last year when we beached our kayaks on Horse Island)
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https://www.lifegate.com/people/news/te ... undepasses


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