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Post 06 Nov 2016, 15:30 • #26 
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early Feralite FF70's (serials A through about E-F) are true 5wts...

a few others have come to mind:
Lamiglas S- Glass SFL84M 7' #4 (2pc)
Diamondback Diamondglass 7' #4 (2pc)

these rods are also straight progressive tapers on the quick side with a 4wt line...


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Post 06 Nov 2016, 17:32 • #27 
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The early FF70's were still better with 6 wts in my hands. They handle a 5 ok but still better with a 6.


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Post 06 Nov 2016, 20:50 • #28 
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Agree Corey. My E series FF70 was a sweet 5wt. Sold it in favor of my Browning 322970!


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Post 07 Nov 2016, 07:43 • #29 
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I can't say if either of these rods are comparable to the Fisher but two 7'0" 4wts I own that I can recommend:

McFarland Spruce Creek (sanded brown blank) 7'0" 4wt (if you can find one) is an amazing rod that for me does it all, both close in & far when required.

Winston Retro 7'0" 4wt (if you can find one). Much slower than the McFarland but a lot of fun in close. IMHO - not as all-around as the McFarland.

HM (3wt) - Tom Morgan Rodsmiths 7'0" 3wt.


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Post 07 Nov 2016, 12:13 • #30 
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I recommend the Steffen 7'3" 3/4 for you; it's nicely progressive and, to me, works best as a 4-weight with true-to-weight 4-weight lines. I think this rod will go well with your old school Fisher 5-weight.


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Post 07 Nov 2016, 13:10 • #31 
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i know i am late the the party but it sounds like you would love the Orvis superfine glass 3wt 7'. any one will tell you it is a wonderful 4wt with good flex that is very versatile.


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Post 07 Nov 2016, 15:06 • #32 
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I can't believe no one has yet mentioned the original US-made black Diamondglass 7' 4wt (2pc). If you can find one, it'd be a wonderful companion to that Fisher.


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Post 07 Nov 2016, 15:17 • #33 
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Marty Romeo wrote:
I can't believe no one has yet mentioned the original US-made black Diamondglass 7' 4wt (2pc). If you can find one, it'd be a wonderful companion to that Fisher.


see #26, above. :P


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Post 07 Nov 2016, 15:27 • #34 
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corlay wrote:
Marty Romeo wrote:
I can't believe no one has yet mentioned the original US-made black Diamondglass 7' 4wt (2pc). If you can find one, it'd be a wonderful companion to that Fisher.


see #26, above. :P


ACK!!! I'm getting old.


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Post 07 Nov 2016, 17:33 • #35 
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xNYkid wrote:
i know i am late the the party but it sounds like you would love the Orvis superfine glass 3wt 7'. any one will tell you it is a wonderful 4wt with good flex that is very versatile.


Hmmmm...that is a pretty good recommendation 'cause I felt exactly the same way when I tried Superfine 7'0' 3wt.


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Post 07 Nov 2016, 21:17 • #36 
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Hmmm.

Steffen 7'3" 3/4
Orvis Superfine glass 7' 3 wt
Fisher 7' 4/5
Fenglass 704

What great ideas

I seem to remember some years ago a thread or two about a Heddon 7' 5 wt. Anyone remember the particulars about that rod? And what about the early Fenwick 315?


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Post 06 Dec 2017, 00:51 • #37 
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I have an 8 foot , 4 weight J Kennedy Fisher glass rod I built up from a blank years ago and it is the slowest rod I own. I also have matching 7 footer for 4 weight and an 8 footer for a 6 weight in the same blanks. They are sweet, progressive taper rods. I also ordered an 8 foot, 5 weight Fisher blank from the old Kaufman's at the same time, but it was broken in shipment and I got the 6 weight as a replacement. I built these rods about 1981 and they are still super casting and fishing rods. These were the same blanks Winston used at the time. That 8 foot, 4 weight Winston glass is a rare item these days, and I really like the version I built on the same blank.


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Post 08 Dec 2017, 04:03 • #38 
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7' Phillipsons rated for a 6wt are good as 5wts. Hardy now has a 7' 3/4 that's being described as full flexing and people are fishing them with the higher line designation. I fish the Fenwick Fenglass 704 mentioned. It's a pinch on the faster side but performs well on small water. It roll cast just fine. One I wish I kept is the original black Diamondglass 704. It's a really nice small stream rod. Orvis Fullflex A, 705 is a pleasant rod that's good with a WF5 or DT4. Just a few thoughts....
I've found the Fenwick Fenglass to be to my liking as a small stream 4wt. It's a good roll caster and has enough punch to cast a dry fly a good distance through a canopy of trees. Taste vary...
I have the Fisher 805. I'm trying to figure what's comparable in a 704. Perhaps a Hardy JET 704 or Hardy American Glascona if you can find one.


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Post 08 Dec 2017, 08:13 • #39 
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I'm sorry, but Fisher 4/5 wt glass is incomparable.


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Post 08 Dec 2017, 09:38 • #40 
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Scott F703 in black or maroon (Montrose rods). With a heavier modern 3wt line or classic 4wt DT.


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Post 08 Dec 2017, 11:19 • #41 
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streamcaster wrote:
Hmmm.

Steffen 7'3" 3/4
Orvis Superfine glass 7' 3 wt
Fisher 7' 4/5
Fenglass 704

What great ideas

I seem to remember some years ago a thread or two about a Heddon 7' 5 wt. Anyone remember the particulars about that rod? And what about the early Fenwick 315?


What about the Heddon? The 7 ft rod is pretty rare, don't see them very often. The 7.5 is more common and the Heddon Pro Weight with brown blank is a classic and a great rod to own.


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Post 08 Dec 2017, 12:05 • #42 
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7' Heddon is a good call. Light, crisp, and deep-flexing.


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Post 08 Dec 2017, 13:31 • #43 
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How about the TFO glass 3/4 7 foot? I dont own that rod but i have been told it is more of a 4wt


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Post 04 May 2018, 13:41 • #44 
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Just a suggestion- but you might try using a 4wt line on the Fisher Graphite 5 that you mentioned in your original post . I use to own a Fisher 8 1/2 5 that morphed into a sublime small stream rod with a double taper 4 . Unfortunately that stick got ripped off by some dirtbag in Ten Sleep Wy . I currently have three Fishers , glass and plastic, and all three cast very well with more than one line weight


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Post 16 May 2018, 00:05 • #45 
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I have a Heddon #8381 7ft.5wt. that I like better with a DT4 line. So I guess you could throw that into the mix. Kind of hard to find though.


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Post 23 May 2018, 14:36 • #46 
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I have a J. Kennedy Fisher 7 foot four weight I built from a blank and it is the lightest rod I own, I also have the 8 foot version of the same rod and it is super slow. A big blue gill is a hand full on either one.


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Post 26 May 2018, 19:41 • #47 
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Just in response to Porespeler, the point is that I DO use my 8' [5 wt ] Fisher graphite as a 4 wt rod -- with 4 weight lines! And in response to those who say that such and such rod is 'pretty quick,' the point is that my Fisher is pretty SLOW; a quality I hope to match.

Since my post, I've picked up a 7', 3 piece, Fisher GLASS rod marked for 4 wight lines. It's OK, but it doesn't match the 8 foot graphite for load feel. I think I'm going to get someone to split a preformed cork grip length-wise so I can close it around the shaft of my 8 footer about a foot up. Presto! A 7' four weight with feel. I hope.

Fish on!
Peter


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Post 28 May 2018, 09:51 • #48 
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If you can find a Scott F (not F2) 7.5’ 4 wt, it might just fit the bill. Another option would be the same Make and series in a 6.5’ 2wt, which I accidentally found out yesterday casts a 4wt line really well. They are expensive rods even on the used market, however.

For new, I agree with other posters that Orvis glass rods may be just what you want - progressive / fast for glass, but still possessing good “glass” feel...


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