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Post 30 Aug 2018, 09:19 • #1 
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My Cabela’s is no more.

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Post 30 Aug 2018, 09:58 • #2 
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Are they rebranding it Bass Pro? Seeing as they merged this kind of makes sense.

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Post 30 Aug 2018, 10:00 • #3 
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Things are changing and not for the better (IMHO).

More than a few discounts are gone including some employee & veteran.

The Cabela's Visa Card is becoming a Capital One MasterCard with several cardholder benefits already discontinued although the point system remains.

A recent online order I made was cancelled without my knowledge and the subsequent customer service responses were cookie cutter and hardly out of the box.

To be honest, despite having a store only 30 minutes away, I hardly buy anything there except when I have points to use. If my Cabela's becomes a Bass Pro like the Bass Pro Stores I am accustomed to, I won't bother at all.

I don't mind admitting that I can get just about anything they sell online, usually for less with no tax or shipping.


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Post 31 Aug 2018, 11:12 • #4 
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That is a shame. Bass Pro has never been much interested in fly fishing IMO.


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Post 31 Aug 2018, 13:07 • #5 
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I have 2 BPS within 45 minutes and a Cabela's within 15.Cabela's has/had a nice selection of rods,a few reels ,good selection of line.A so so tying section.This one is basically a gun and archery shop.Bass pro in Illinois has a poor selection of fly rods and reels.NO glass.But has a really good tying selection.BPS in Indiana has a pretty good fly shop.Near a bunch Lake Michigan tribs and they seem to know their stuff.Almost like a local fly shop atmosphere with vices set up on the counter with some finished steelhead flies and components lying about.Lots of equipment geared for lake run steelhead.So there must be some leeway in how the stores are configured.I like going to both,more just for something to do in the winter.I try to buy at the 2 local tackle bait shops whenever possible.I will even order stuff thru them if possible.


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Post 31 Aug 2018, 15:53 • #6 
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It seemed like maybe Cabelas would focus on hunting side and Bass Pro on fishing stuff if in fact they were both staying in business. I noticed Cabelas had some Bass Pro branded rods for sale on their website the other day, which seemed odd at the time.


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Post 31 Aug 2018, 19:15 • #7 
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Sorry to hear that, Panfish. Haven't seen similar changes here in the Denver area. BPS here has an excellent fly shop, with some glass (Fenglass). Good tying materials selection, waders and other gear. Staff seems knowledgeable. Cabelas on the south end of town is pretty good. Not as much stuff, but some different brands.., nice to have a choice. I hope they keep the Cabelas branded gear. Since the 2 Cabelas stores in Metro Denver are fairly new, I can't imagine them disappearing soon or even rebranding. But who knows? Maybe the changes are demographic driven. It's a drive for me to visit either, so I usually visit a local fly shop or Sportsman's Warehouse first. I get pretty annoyed in the specialty fly shops anymore, though. One was like visiting a car dealership, so I quit them.


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Post 31 Aug 2018, 20:35 • #8 
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I just saw an ad on TV for "Bass Pro and Cabela's". I got the impression that they were keeping both names and product lines.


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Post 31 Aug 2018, 20:57 • #9 
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Maybe I'm biased, but I always thought Cabela's house brand products were better quality than Bass Pro branded products. Sad to see Cabela's lose out.


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Post 01 Sep 2018, 01:46 • #10 
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Cabelas has developed good affordable fly rods. I’ve enjoyed my Cabela’s. There are two bass pro shops equal distance from my house and even though I have visited them on numerous occasions, I’ve never really spent much money there at all. I never really considered shopping at Cabela’s and to me it kind of seemed like a top end brand like L.L. Bean. When they opened, I was very impressed with the fly shop and the large and affordable selection of materials. And the selection of rods and reels. This store is definitely a step up from the Cabela’s I visited in San Marco‘s. I’ve never really been impressed with the fly shop or fly rods and reels at the bass pro shop. I’ve been a very loyal customer to Cabela’s and am hoping that bass pro shops continues on with the Cabela’s lines of rods, reels and fly shop.

The one thing that has really disappointed me is that after Bass Pro shops purchased Cabela’s, there are virtually no Cabela’s brand products in the fly tying materials Which was much more affordable than the brand-name products.


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Post 03 Sep 2018, 21:57 • #11 
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I routinely bought Cabelas tapered leaders but now they are gone. They sell name brands but they cost twice as much. Like other great outfitting stores (Abercrombie and Fitch, Herters, Eddie Bauer, etc) I fear that Cabelas will follow the path that Bass Pro is on...to become a clothing store. The new Cabelas catalogs have 5 pages of bass boats in the front. I have not seen positive change yet.


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Post 04 Sep 2018, 06:01 • #12 
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The fly tying material deals seem to be gone. Other than rods, and tshirts, I never bought much there anyhow.


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Post 04 Sep 2018, 07:46 • #13 
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It was on the Spin page, I mentioned 3-pc travel TFO inshore rod, that I bought as a Cabelas branded rod - the closeout was 25% of the TFO retail, but even when Cabelas was selling it at retail, it was only 60% of the TFO price.

For me, Cabelas goes back to their rod-building and especially lure-building catalog roots. But I couldn't have outfitted kids in waders without them.
However, I just don't see Cabelas rods going away - they have a much better reputation than any tackle BPS ever branded (on corpusfishing bulletin board, their surf reels give Penn a run for their money).

Yes, the sundries will go away because inventory costs money. Just like most fly shops that have survived through today turned over their floor space that used to be for fly-tying and 3 times as many rod racks into women's apparel. Donny's leaders will disappear, as my favorite lure-building supplies disappeared 10 years ago.

Each retail outlet is going to survive on its own merits. Where they'll continue are at Outlet Malls, which seem to be where all retail outlets are focusing these days.
fwiw, Orvis outlets are popping up everywhere.
Be sure, they use their catalog sales statistics to decide where to put retail outlets.

I was clobbered when West Marine closed all their doors in San Antonio - a place to buy cordage, fittings, Boeshield, 303, Goop, fasteners, and window-shop for rigging ideas.
They don't get my catalog business anymore - I look for places with more cost-effective shipping options.
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or extra effort - ordered the needed dock line replacement from Vela rigging supplies in Rockwall, TX (my old, cheap line had been pouring blue powder on the foredeck for 2 years from its 8-year UV exposure).
Paid cordage price and expected to get cordage and tie it in with a bowline knot. They sent it beautifully hand-spliced and seized without me asking.
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Post 04 Sep 2018, 07:47 • #14 
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Look, neither of these outfits got where they are by being stupid, either in the mail order OL market place or bricks and mortar. Comments, strictly as an observer and occasional customer of both, going back to buying an Alcedo Micron from Cabela's when they were just outgrowing a garage and there was no Bass Pro to check for spinning reels, or when an OL search for RedHead turned up a porno site, not an independent retailer, now subsumed (name retained in hunting products) by Bass Pro. Cabela's purchased the Herter's name and at least one of their retail sites (Mitchell, S.D.) but didn't keep all the products. They developed more and "better" products but still use the Herter's name on some. Same for BP and RH. Doesn't matter what they call the new company; they are going to continue to change/develop products, partly in response to the complexities of global sourcing, but routinely in response to a changing marketplace. For all I know, the Cabela's store in MItchell is gone now. I spied it years ago when passing through but didn't stop in, whereas I always stopped at Herter's. I can't get a favorite shirt from Cabela's anymore, just a sourcing/style change a few years before the current in-progress merger. The products are going to change no matter what. Personally, I think it is a great marriage that will capture the southern ("bass") sportsman and the northern upcountry ("outfitter") auras for an even more appealing product range than either company alone. I would guess that they will keep the Cabela's name on its most iconic products or product line, just as was done with RedHead. If they offer a shirt as good as that old favorite, it doesn't really matter whose name is on it, just as long as it is a soft canvas trail shirt.

Note that at the most recent NASCAR race sponsored by Bass Pros, the Cabela's name was also prominent. It is possible they want to reiniforce and then fade the name, but marketers don't usually make an investment in brand recognition only to drop it.


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Post 04 Sep 2018, 08:26 • #15 
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Cabelas was also the importer of Quick brand spinning reels and made their reputation in the US.
No, Cabelas won't disappear. Both will stand, and each will remain where they're making a profit.
They'll simply streamline their inventories and promote what each is good at.
We vote with our $

Last time I was in Cabelas, raided their bargain bins in the fly fishing department (Donny would have been in heaven).
One thing I picked up were spools of Seaguar salt tippet, and became a junkie for their monofilament lines, nylon, fluoro and copolymer.

My buddy Steve won't mail-order anything. He'll buy a lower-grade of something than what he really needs just to be able to walk into a local outlet and spend money. I was helping him design a rudder bracket and ordering delrin bar from McMaster was out of the question. So I found a plastics supplier on Josephine street where he could buy the delrin bar.


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Post 08 Sep 2018, 11:47 • #16 
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In time the Cabela name will be completely gone. Morris didn't buy them for the stores or their products but merely to increase his market share. In my opinion he overpaid for them. Cabela's wasn't all that profitable as most of the real profit was from the credit card part of their business and ironically that had to be divested before the deal could be finalized.

I hated to see them go as like others I always thought their fly fishing stuff was far better than Bass Pro's and they had some great sales.

Morris is a very shrewd business man and running a private company gives him a lot of advantages over a publicly traded company like Cabela's.


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Post 08 Sep 2018, 12:39 • #17 
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I too always liked Cabela's flyfishing gear better than Bass Pro's. Here in southern Oklahoma, our nearest Bass Pro or Cabela's is in Oklahoma City, 70 and100 miles away respectively. Even before the merger was completed, our Cabela's had already shut down their flyfishing area. They eventually put back in a very small area of fly gear. Bass Pro still has their White River fly shop. I rarely shop in either store any more, as it is easier for me to shop online, and I can frequently find better gear or better prices through other outlets. For other outdoor items I can usually get whatever I need at better prices through one of the Academy stores.

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Post 08 Sep 2018, 13:09 • #18 
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I've always preferred Cabela's over BPS too.
When I lived in California, and before the BPS purchase of Cabela's, they never charged Californian residents sales tax. So, I'd wait for free shipping promotions as well as their typical sales, combined with my use of 18-20% discounted Cabela's gift cards from a well known seller on the auction site, and I'd buy A LOT of ammunition, shipped for free, tax-free and discounted. And if already on sale to begin with, I'd get insane bargains.
My purchases have tapered off a lot, but for many years, Cabela's was my "other woman".


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Post 09 Sep 2018, 21:14 • #19 
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Was at the Fort Worth Cabela's store Friday, the Bargain bin section is gone and in it's place clothing.
The fly shop doesn't appear to be re-stocking their flys, many trays empty. I haven't seen a fly fishing item
go on sale online for sometime now.


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Post 10 Sep 2018, 00:39 • #20 
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I'm about an hour and half from the home Bass Pro in Springfield and about twenty minutes from the Cabelas nearest the BP main office, it was said from the start that the boats was the reason Morris wanted Cabela and the first change in the Cabela (which I'm told is the set-up shop for them all due to the proximity) was moving everything out of the front and getting the boats and boat equipment out where you have to go around them to get in the store. It looks like three times as much boat stuff inside like seats and bilge pumps and gosh knows what all than Cabelas ever had. I don't do boats so couldn't tell what branding any of it is.
Friday I was in the neighborhood and stopped in to do the usual walk through of C's and the flyfishing department was moved again (4th or 5th time since the take over), when I found it, the guy that's been there since C's built the store told me that they were in their permanent home in that corner; I didn't examine it all or get to quiz him about the future much, but at first glance they have a bit more room than before and about the same inventory of tying materials, the arrangements are much different, all the tying stuff on one wall instead of the racks, makes it sorta harder to find what you're looking for. I didn't see the display of Cabelas reels but i may have missed them or they may still have been in the back room, it obvious the section was only half put together.
It looked to me like there will still be a great fly shop there. Far as that goes, the Bass Pro in Springfield has always had a great selection of materials and fly rods by a number of brands.
OK, It still says "Cabela's" on the out side but just inside the door the floor has a large Bass Pro sign laid into the tile. Cabela's stores died when Morris bought them, no doubt about it. He will retain the name on some lines probably and other lines will be out, he may even use the name on a new line just as C's used Herter's name; but had he not bought Cabela's; they would be even more gone, they weren't for sale because they were rolling in profit and you can look at Dicks or Gander to see where Cabela's would be.
It looks like with no gun panic in the white house and the youngsters doing virtual stuff instead of fishing that we aren't enough consumers to support all these giant retailers. I know I don't help them much because 90%+ of my fishing purchases are from a one man shop.
Been herds of Springfield suits crawling all over this store since before the deal was even final. Change is coming to all the Cabelas, that isn't quite the end of the world.


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Post 12 Sep 2018, 19:59 • #21 
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there was a heads up on corpusfishing this week about Cabelas Salt Striker spinning reels on sale.

oh, and I did make a purchase from West Marine today. Needed marine dry lube for a skeg rebuild, UPS hazard is the only way to ship it, and they had best price on the good stuff (Sailkote).
I'm also replacing that stupid full-thread machine screw used as the rotation axle with a shoulder bolt - it gets traction in the frame and causes the skeg to tighten against itself when you're trying to deploy it.
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Post 14 Sep 2018, 06:32 • #22 
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I live 2 hours from BP corporate/flagship store. They have a decent fly shop. However, when visiting other BP fly shops, not impressed. My Cabela’s store had a great one.

It’s been a month since they’ve started the remodel. The fly shop has moved but has not been totally reset. There are definitely boats present as you enter the store.

Whoever is in charge of the transition from Cabela’s to Bass Pro shops is not doing very good because there is so much not in the store and it’s just been a mess.

I’m wondering if Cabela’s will be like Hellman’s/Best Foods. Will stores still be Cabela’s outside of the South or East of the Rockies - while stores in the east or South rebadged BP?

It was nice being able to drive several miles for fly tying materials, line, leaders, etc.

I do and have always shopped my Local owned though. Still have that one.




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Post 21 Sep 2018, 18:53 • #23 
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I went to Oklahoma City yesterday to visit a fishing buddy who is hospitalized with a perforated appendix. He has so much inflammation the surgeon has put in a drain and will not operate for 6 more weeks, so he probably won't be fishing again until at least mid-November. After leaving the hospital, Kurt and I stopped in at Cabela's which is about a mile down the road from the hospital. Much to my surprise they have expanded the flyfishing section. Still don't have a big selection, but at least now offering a variety of rods, and a fairly good selection of flies. They had a few CGR's in stock, and surprisingly had 3 of the 7'6" 7/8 weight rods which are no longer listed in the catalog or online. Kurt was just going to buy a shirt until he found out he had quite a few Club points accrued, so he also grabbed the CGR 7/8 weight rod. I know a few people have been bemoaning that they can't find the 7/8 weight CGR, but at least for now the OKC store has 2 remaining in stock.

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Post 28 Sep 2018, 20:03 • #24 
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The purchase of Cabela’s is becoming more tangible.

My local “Cabela’s” - Bass Pro’s Rogers Location To Become First U.S. Combo Store.

https://sgbonline.com/133564-2/


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Post 30 Sep 2018, 22:01 • #25 
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Just went into the Denver Cabelas today. It is looking more and more like Bass Pro every time I stop in. The Bass Pro "White River" line of fly fishing gear has displaced Cabelas brands and Redhead is doing the same on gear. It does make sense to consolidate the sources versus two lines of the same stuff...but, I do have a sense of remorse for the move. When they add the golfing stuff someday, the end of another great outfitter is near.


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