Hi Guys

I was chatting with a friend about how I was looking for a second hand fly rod at garage sales while visiting in Jackson Hole, WY. He said he was sure he had one lying around his garage that he could give me. In fact, he did! It is this H.L. Leonard glass rod; 6'6" 4# weight. He remembers, about 20 years ago, driving along a mountain road and seeing an aluminum tube. He pulled over to pick it up and this rod was inside with a fabric sleeve. He always hoped to use it, but says that he has yet to do so.

So, my questions are:

What is it's history and possible value?

Thank you for any info you're able to give.

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Looks to be the very desirable epoxite blank.......aurelio

When Leonard first wanted to get into the glass market, they purchased their blanks from Phillipson, then built them out at the Leonard factory.

That band over the butt wrap/keeper wrap looks like an id band probably placed there by whomever was selling, or bidding the rod at some point.

Nice rod!

Yes, good point Ron, after 3M acquired Phillipson in 1972. In fact, Johnson and Johnson, p. 140, identifies the 6-6, 2 oz. #4 weight model as Spring Creek Series with nickel silver screw-lock seat and red windings. This from a 1974 catalog.

Whether the material is eponite, epoxite, or unidirectional is not specified.

Epoxite for sure I have the same rod,rio gold 3 or a dt 4 works great.......aurelio

Of course not to offend, but fishing-wise it has no more value than the equivalent Phillipson. Of course to Leonard collectors, it could bring an extra $150. It's a very desirable size and weight, and I would put it in the range of $450, and I don't normally offer values.

" I think Bulldog has the value spot on - about $450 to the right person assuming the tube and sock are original. "

.., yeah, what he said.

Im with Carl on this one.

$450 is a 2007-2009 "collector's price" for this rod.
A lot has changed since then, and demand for this rod has seriously waned.

I think you would have trouble getting $450 for a 2-tip registered Epoxite in todays market

however, a Leonard collector wouldn't be interested in a Phillipson Registered



I think you can also see on this thread why I don't normally offer values.
Market fluctuations in a fixed-supply market are temporary.

I would agree with Corey here. A lot has changed in the past few years. The biggest change is in glass rods that just a few years ago were getting two to three times compared to today. A good example are Peak rods, which have dropped drastically compared to a few years ago. What does seem to be rising are vintage graphite rods.

Here are two photos of the rod tube and sock. I'm definitely curious to hear whether these are originals or not.

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Dumb question but didn't Leonard glass come in same brass capped tube and tabbed bag as the bamboo & graphite rods from that era?

I have seen a Graftek and another Leonard glass rod that did...?

Ron,
I understand the reluctance to offer values, but don't take it personally. My opinion is just that. And you are also correct that the condition and specific rod are critical. The value in a collectable rod is just that. And for that, the original tube and sock are important. As is finding the right buyer.

I have a Registered spiggot ferruled EF66, single tip in original tube that is missing a cap, but the sock is not original. As a fishing rod, it's fantastic, but not having the cap and original sock probably knocks it down from a $350 rod to a $250 rod. A rewrapped guide would drop it further.

Gearboy, shush about the graphite. Do you want to drive prices up more? I shouldn't complain I filled most of the collection that I want.