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Post 12 Oct 2017, 01:07 • #1 
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A comment on the red rods thread reminded me that I am genuinely confused and (at least until enlightened) dismayed by $80/$110/$170 nippers. It actually makes me feel like A(company) is actively mocking me, and for that reason alone I wouldn't even look at one of their reels. To my mind that product pretty neatly sums up much of what keeps folks from joining our ranks. Any ideas?


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 02:26 • #2 
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The local price here is about 160 USD for the fish graphic ones. I am sure they are good, and I have considered buying one without the graphic (half the price).
I would never spend 160 on a nipper, but as long as some people are willing to pay.....
I guess it is the same as super expensive wines, caviar, 3 million USD diamond dog collars ect. There is a market for these things, simply because some people are willing to pay, and don't care - or ask - about the price.


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 02:58 • #3 
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I bought the plain black Abels a few years ago. I got 'em for 50, but now I see they're going for 85. Guess I got a heck of a deal! In all seriousness though, they're completely unnecessary in the grand scheme of things, but it's one less thing I have to worry about not working properly and they'll probably outlive me.


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 05:55 • #4 
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Can't explain either


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 06:06 • #5 
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Explain a $695 reel or an $800+ shop built Epic 686 (current price on their website). What about a $3-4,000 bamboo rod? Would I buy those nippers? Probably not, but mainly because I have a tendency to drop tools in the water when I'm fishing. Watched a $150 pair of sunglasses get swept away in some fast current once >:. Heck, what about that. Good pair of sunglasses can run well over $200. Can't imagine anyone new to the sport looking at those nippers and saying, if I have to buy those, I'm not gonna fly fish. And that's the point right there. You don't have to buy them. Plenty of lower cost options on all the gear we use. Brings up the debate of you get what you pay for.. What's that old saying, "The bitterness of poor quality remains, long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten".


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 06:41 • #6 
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it's man jewelry.


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 06:49 • #7 
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The explanation I have been waiting for is why high priced fishing tackle annoys people so much whether they have used said item or not?


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 07:59 • #8 
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Personally I have been using the same pair of snips I purchased decades ago for ~$4.00 without an issue, probably need to replace, but they still work just fine. If you have the cash and need for >$100.00 snips go for it. It keeps someone working.


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 08:04 • #9 
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+1 on " man jewelry "


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 08:29 • #10 
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Moolery


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 08:54 • #11 
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My kids bought me the black Abel nippers for my birthday some years back, and think $50. That is about their dollar limit, and they are running out of things to get me (I have lots of stuff, okay too much). They do work great, very high quality, will last hundreds of years (unless dropped, lost, etc,), but my front teeth worked very well also - too well in fact. I have stopped with my teeth and use my Abel nippers now, and can think of the kindness of the gift from my kids. :D


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 09:18 • #12 
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I've been using nail clippers for 30+ years and have spent no more than $1.00 per pair when purchasing them. I would not spend $110 on nippers, but I've grossly overpaid for other things that were important to me. I think if you really want a piece of gear (whatever it is) and have the money to buy it, you should. For me it comes down to enjoyment. I don't think there are any right or wrong answers here...just do what makes you happy. Life is too short!

David


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 09:44 • #13 
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Heck, look what people pay for fly rods which don't even have any fiberglass in them!


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 10:25 • #14 
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Very nice, overbuilt and I guess worth the price if you feel you have to have it, I can't justify it though.


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 10:54 • #15 
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Whatever folks are willing to pay. The price of fiberglass rods have gotten wonky due to increased popularity. Probably for the best as it forces me to assess what is necessary and what is extra baggage. Oh finger nail clippers...


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 11:18 • #16 
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jhuskey wrote:
My kids bought me the black Abel nippers for my birthday some years back, .......they are running out of things to get me


I had a father like that. I gave him a $200 Campagnolo corkscrew (they also make the wheels for Ferraris and components for $10,000 bicycles)

It was actually a good gift, pulling the toughest cork undamaged with minimal effort. The owner of the bike shop that ordered it for me said his 86 year old grandmother can still open wine bottles because of that corkscrew.

Of course, I inherited it. Still use it every day and remember my Dad.


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 11:42 • #17 
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dpenrod wrote:
What's that old saying, "The bitterness of poor quality remains, long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten".


I definitely have some stuff in that category. If only I could sort the bargains from the junk.

Need to add this though----caught a personal record last week

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Rod: FF 807, $45
Reel: Pflueger Medalist 1495 $32
Fly: Big Y Wooley Bugger $0.65

Catching a 26", 7 lb rainbow on gear which cost less than nippers: Priceless.


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 12:28 • #18 
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Lol. Okay ... I'm not really all that outraged. I completely get it on handcrafted rods. I also understand economies of scale which is why mass-produced nippers at that price point make so little sense to me. Best argument I've seen is the sentimental heirloom one. That one resonates.


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 14:10 • #19 
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Basically because tackle mskers see fly fishing as a richer man's sport. Same reason fly shops push thousabd dollar rods on newbs, same reason good waders cost $3-500 per pair. Because they can.

Even if I became Bill Gates' and Donald Trump's adopted love child I would still buy $2 nail clippers and $1 hemostats. But I would probably buy $2000 shotguns and thousand dollar rods... theres always a market. Besides - how many $100 nippers does one need to sell to make the same profits as the conpany selling $1 nail clippers?


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 15:29 • #20 
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I wouldn't buy them if I just won Powerball. I can't stand anything that's a ripoff.


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 16:29 • #21 
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Newfydog wrote:
jhuskey wrote:
My kids bought me the black Abel nippers for my birthday some years back, .......they are running out of things to get me


I had a father like that. I gave him a $200 Campagnolo corkscrew (they also make the wheels for Ferraris and components for $10,000 bicycles)

It was actually a good gift, pulling the toughest cork undamaged with minimal effort. The owner of the bike shop that ordered it for me said his 86 year old grandmother can still open wine bottles because of that corkscrew.

Of course, I inherited it. Still use it every day and remember my Dad.


I'd buy one of those! But you know Campy doesn't put their name on crap. And few things elicit joy the way a newly opened bottle of wine does.


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 17:11 • #22 
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I've contemplated buying one of the pricey nippers, because all the cheap nippers seem to wear out quickly.. but have not actually managed it. jhuskey, good idea, maybe I'll ask the family for one at next gift time..

$110 is ridiculous however if I was fabulously wealthy it wouldn't be..


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 19:17 • #23 
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Newfydog wrote:
dpenrod wrote:
What's that old saying, "The bitterness of poor quality remains, long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten".


I definitely have some stuff in that category. If only I could sort the bargains from the junk.

Need to add this though----caught a personal record last week

Image

Rod: FF 807, $45
Reel: Pflueger Medalist 1495 $32
Fly: Big Y Wooley Bugger $0.65

Catching a 26", 7 lb rainbow on gear which cost less than nippers: Priceless.


Beautiful fish!


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 20:14 • #24 
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I do love over engineered gear and swanky reels that act as line holders, but I cannot wrap my head around more than $20 for a pair of nippers.


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Post 12 Oct 2017, 20:52 • #25 
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Do the $20 nippers come with fries and a sandwich at least? I could see spending that for a really good lunch occasionally.


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